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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous][quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous]No, that is not the argument at all. I have no problem with how anyone else chooses to live. I have no issue with Muslims who support Sharia want to practice their faith in what ever version of Sharia that may be to them. The issue -- and I'm guessing you're only pretending not to understand it -- is with a minority of crazy Islamists who want to IMPOSE islamic law ON THE REST OF US. You can pretend they aren't there because that makes you feel threatened for your Muslim friends, but the fact is THEY ARE THERE. THEY are the issue. Not Muslims going about their business practicing their version of Sharia law. Come on, you KNOW that's the conversation. Please tell me you realize that....[/quote] If your concern is with a small minority of radicals -- who are also opposed by most other Muslims -- then I fail to understand why there is any discussion at all. Why are you worried about a small minority? What chance does that group have to influence the American Muslim community let alone the entire US? This is the height of chicken littleism. Why exactly do you fear this group and how do you believe they are going to impose Islamic law on any of us? [/quote] Are you serious? I don't care what other Muslims think! I don't care if they are influenced by this small minority of radicals -- any more than I care about any other group being influenced by them. What I care about is being blown up, and cars driving into crowds of people. It's THOSE Muslims we're talking about, not the normal ones. Sheesh, it's counter-productive to say if someone is scared of radical Islamists then they must be anti-Muslim. That is not the case and it's just putting your head in the sand. I'm sure normal American Muslims are just as appalled by this radical violent behavior as I am. And I'm not afraid they will end up imposing islamic law on us -- I'm afraid of their continuing attempts to do it. It's going to be a long, bloody fight unfortunately.[/quote] Your train of thought is very hard to follow. All sorts of charts were posted here to demonstrate that lots of Muslims support Sharia. As I understood it, the support by Muslims for Sharia was used as evidence of the threat Muslims pose to our society. But, now it turns out that you really aren't worried about Sharia at all. [b]If your concern is about Muslims who may commit violence, there is really no reason to discuss Sharia. There is really no relationship between those two things. That is a completely different topic.[/b] [/quote] Well that's been my entire point. I could not care less about having a nuanced discussion about Sharia law -- that was you bringing all that up, not me. My point is that there are some who would like to impose [i]their[/i] version of Sharia law on the rest of the world, and their version is not the pretty version you are debating. True story.[/quote] You are assuming they are using violence as a means to impose Shariah on the rest of the world. That is a huge stretch. They are a number of different objectives the violence is aimed at. These include desperate attempts to get countries to stop the bombings of ISIS held territories, which have been shrinking rapidly. They also serve as recruiting tools; ISIS has no more battlefield victories to show but it can pull off a successful suicide bombing killing scores of Westerners. Or it can be just an act of alienation with no known connection to any Islamic group as the bombing in Nice appears to be. It's pretty fair to say that none of the acts of terrorism have been aimed at spreading Shariah law. The battles for territory in Syria and Iraq--sure. The attacks in France--no. [/quote]
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