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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]So when you are black out drunk you can still be conscious, right? And perhaps even "consenting"? And maybe even if a guy was sheltered and hadn't had much to drink before he might not handle alcohol well and be able to distinguish that the girl is *that* drunk.  [/quote]

It was a drinking party and people drink and hook up at drinking parties.  This guy appeared to have been drinking and trying to hook up.  Was he somehow more responsible than the women at the drinking at the party?  I don't know that he was.  Was he looking for a woman that was interested and willing to hook up with him?  Yeah, I think that he was...

It is not really known exactly what happened between these two before the assault took place.  But at some point it was consensual, even if they were both very drunk.  Obviously, when the young woman ceased being aware of what was happening and could no longer stand and was literally falling down drunk....things changed and this guy knew damned well that she was no longer capable of consenting but kept going anyway. Now he's in jail.

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