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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Y'all keep talking about "subtle micro-agressions."  In the meantime, your fellow Muslims cut the head off another aid worker and released a video this morning.

When Muslims stop blatant aggression and violence against non-Muslims, maybe we can talk about "subtle micro-aggressions."[/quote]

Yes, I suppose Muslima and I did that early this morning, just before we fed our children breakfast and sent them off to school. You would not want people to blame you for the actions of others, so don't blame all Muslims for the actions of extremists. [/quote]

If you stand by and say nothing while your fellow religionists murder aid workers, then you are part of the problem. You endorse their actions with your silence. You endorse their actions with  your posturing as a highly persecuted minority that needs to "fight back."

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I don't blame her for ISIS, and she has condemned them. Closer to home, I do think she has a moral obligation to condem the poster who said, a few days ago, that Shi'ites aren't Muslims and we shouldn't trust Sunnis. Waiting....[/quote]

It is absolutely, positively wrong for any Muslim to say who is a true Muslim or who isn't. That judgment and determination is with God/Allah alone. I have not seen the immigrant poster's statement to this effect but I trust you if you say he made such a statement. If he did, it was absolutely wrong.

That said, there are certain criteria for being a Muslim. One needs only to believe 1) There is one God only 2) Prophet Muhammad is the last messenger. Implied in the second part of this oath is that one acknowledges there is a long line of messengers and prophets from God such as Adam, Jonah, Joseph, Moses, Jesus, Lot, etc…and Muhammad is the last one. That is it. [b]There are many different ways of interpreting Islam, for sure, and Muslims are permitted to criticize and debate which way is correct.[/b] [b]However, it is absolutely wrong to make a judgment as to who is a Muslim.[/b]

It isn't uncommon for Muslims to judge one another, much the same way Christians or Jews may judge one another. I'm not sure where you got the idea I would defend any Muslim engaged in wrongdoing.[/quote]

You saw the post.  You can keep saying you didn't but you know you did.

[b]I find it odd that you state the above bolded- because you've been clear before about what is "True Islam" (anyone that doesn't agree with you) and some not being "true" Muslims.  
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But at least you are being truthful in stating that you believe only 'Muslims are permitted to criticize and debate which way is correct.'

In which case, why are you posting so much about Islam on non Muslim boards?  Why not just post your thoughts on Islam on Islamic boards frequented by only Muslims so there could at least be some dialogue.  You post here, then get upset that others comment on your posts then start name calling.

If you can only discuss Islam with other Muslims, then please feel free to leave this board and do so.  Why waste time here if no one else is "permitted" to criticize or debate the interpretations of Islam?

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[b]The only people who refer to themselves as Muslims but who I believe are not Muslims are the extremists who kill innocent people (ISIS, Osama Bin Laden, etc..) Their acts are so egregious, so offensive to Islam, and so harmful to not only Islam but all of society and that compels me to say they can not be true Muslims.

I find it fascinating but quite sad that you consider DCUM a nonMuslim board, this religion forum a nonMuslim forum, and this thread a nonMuslim thread. DCUM does not fall under the umbrella of any particular religion. From my understanding, people of any faith can post. This forum is titled, "Religion", which means it is open for people of all religions to post. This thread was started by me, a Muslim, and it is about Islam and the kind of discrimination Muslims suffer.

Is it your assertion that the Islamophobes be permitted to publish negative information about my faith but I not be permitted to rebut or correct any false statements? [/b][/quote]

I'm starting to sense a bit of reading comprehension issues.  Let me make it a little simpler for you- You want to start multiple posts about Islam but you will only accept responses that do not contradict your opinions.  If someone is not on board with what your saying, you NAME CALL- Islamaphobes!  This is because you believe only Muslims should be able to debate Islam.

Rebut or correct all you want, but don't name call and call someone an Islamaphobe because they still don't agree with you. Oh and then threaten with I'm going to out you posts because you don't like what you hear.

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