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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]AOC needs time to learn. I'm not sure who to blame. AOC or her staff.She ws completely unprepared for Muncih. Venezuela gaff, word salad, ridiculing Rubio on the cowboys originating in Spain. They were called vaqueros, who are cow herders, which mortared in Mexico then US as cowboys. With Hispanic heritage, that makes it even. worse.

Both Newsom and AOC are a mess. So much baggage. Wes Moore caught lying. (and I liked him!) Gov Pete and too soft. We need something just shy of middle age who is dynamic like Bill Clinton and Obama.

I think Newsom could have won who CA is a mess.Pritzker is a mess. 2 badly run states with huge problems. Chris Murphy is holier than though with zero personality. Andy Bershear (Sp) is boring.

I wouldn't risk a woman at this point. Maybe for VP. But I think AOC as VP would be like Vance. Not viable as president. I think Pelosi gave her advice. Learn, get some chops, then be the new generation.

But who would have guessed Mamadai would win NYC. Though he is good looking and personably, and his opponents were hard Nos. Perfect storm for him to get elected.

Most off the radar sane people have little interest in turning their lives upside down to run for president.[/quote]
We don’t need a charismatic superstar.  I’m tired of the Presidency as a cult of personality - give me someone who is rational, diligent, and competent as a Chief Executive.  I’d be fine with Beshear or Kelly.[/quote]

Like it or not, charisma is more important now than ever before. And if you look at modern two-term presidents, they all had charisma - Reagan, Clinton, Obama, even W. The only time boring and bland worked was with Biden - and look where we are today. Biden was meant to be the dull placeholder after Trump 1.0, which led directly to the disaster that is Trump 2.0.

Plus, we don't know who the Republican candidate will be. It's foolish to assume it'll be Vance. This very well could be a real competitive race if the GOP gets over its Trump problem. Kelly and Beasher seem like perfectly decent men, but they don't inspire. And Democrats need a genuine leader for the next 8 years to undue all the damage that Trump has done. The vast majority of voters are not policy wonks inside the beltway. Democrats need someone that can transcend all the media noise and really connect with average Americans. And I'm still not seeing anyone from among the usual names. I agree that AOC took a giant step backwards with her appearance in Munich - not ready for primetime. And Newsom with his slick hair and California baggage is never winning PA, MI, WI, GA, NC and other states that Democrats really need to win. But somebody better emerge soon. [/quote]

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