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Clearly the No Kings protests struck a nerve. They sent a message and it appears it was received. [/quote]

I get the purpose behind the protests...but honestly...aside from making you feel better, what did it really solve? Sure, it proved that you did what you have the right to do...protest. But the protests are over and tomorrow it's back to work. Back to school.

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It reminded Trump and his sycophants that many many Americans are paying attention and are angry. This is a democracy so it matters what the people think. [/quote]

Np here. I hate being so cynical, but we no longer live in a country where it matters what the people think. In normal times, leaders would see massive protests and offer some semblance of compromise or reassurance. If for no other reason, fear of not being re-elected. But the gop somehow does not seem concerned about future elections. The protests were great, but we need to follow that up with lasting changes. Get off of meta, X, Amazon. Don’t give money to red states, etc. Protesters need to be persistent. We need to fill McPherson Square with 500 protesters at all times, for starters. The press needs to stop giving them the coverage/attention they want and call them out on every lie, every time. The protests are a good start, but it should be a catalyst for resistance - not a one and done. [/quote]

There were 5 million Americans at 6 protest this weekend, 2% of the population.  And almost [u]double[/u] the protest numbers of May.

If our government refuses to listen, imagine what the July protests will look like.  Or August.[/quote]

THEY DO NOT CARE. Why don't you people get this? [/quote]

Because I'm not a nihilist.

Yes, they see.  They are not blind.  And they really really care.[/quote]

Then we fundamentally disagree. On my end, it looks like y'all had fun, but it didn’t move the people with actual power one millimeter. Nothing changed because effective protest requires certain ingredients that this kind of protest very specifically and intentionally does not have.[b] If they actually threatened power in any way, they would not be allowed to happen. [/b][/quote]

This is a really strange view of the country that you have.

This weekend, a crazy conservative assassinated attempted to assassinate another Democrat state legislator.  This weekend, 4-6 million Americans peacefully protested (with some violence done to them in Utah and Virginia and California) the unlawful and unconstitutional and unAmerican things that our president and government are doing.

You think our president and government could have stopped them?

How?[/quote]

You have a naive understanding of the way power works on this country, who has it, and for what causes they are allowed to wield it. [/quote]

Okay.

I have some understanding of how large this country is, population and square footage.  I have some understanding of how fundamental the ideals of this country are, in our culture, of freedom, individuality, and respect for the law.  There are criminals, but they are not respected.  By anyone.

If you think this weekend was meaningless, you might be right.  I think you're wrong.  We'll see.[/quote]

There's a reason the Jan 6th protesters made it inside the Capitol and only one of them was shot, while the BLM protests elicited a very different response from law enforcement.

There's a reason my local protest happened at a park, not in front of the ICE building or even downtown.

There's a reason these protests were largely white and thus were allowed to remain largely peaceful.

There's a reason the LA protests in particular have been spicier than all the others.

Stop being naive. We can't fight what most of y'all won't even be honest with yourselves is happening. [/quote]

When a mob of hundreds forcefully breaches security at our nation's Capitol Building, The White House, or The Pentagon, it isn't a "protest" or a riot. That situation is an attack on our nation's sovereignty and the attack should be met with immediate deadly force. Jan 6th was a law enforcement and security failure.

Rioters and looters taking advantage of large protests in major cities should be met with an immediate response from law enforcement and arrests but not immediate deadly force. Most city riots involving looting and vandalism also involve failures of law enforcement to act swiftly and dutifully.

These two situations aren't comparable other than the failures of law enforcement part. Try again.[/quote]

This. 
While I recognize the MAGA playbook is to conflate protest (first amendment rights to speech and assemble) with violence in order to intimidate and shame people who are profoundly angry about Trump’s violations of our norms and the Constitution, I am tired of it.  But, not so tired that I will stop protecting the values of my country.

- independent/former R[/quote]

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