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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Senior researchers are a dime a dozen. It's much harder to find folks with technical skills who want to work at a non-profit instead of Google.  I know RAND looks at comparable salaries when setting ranges.[/quote]

How do you know? Is RAND HR monitoring this thread?[/quote]

I used to work there as a researcher. Definitely not HR.  FFRDCs to do comps pretty carefully when doing government work to justify salaries.  What can researchers make in academia?  What do other organizations pay? That said the comps are not Wall Street.

It was always harder to find folks for the tech support side, and hard to keep them.  In Silicon Valley they're the stars and at FFRDCs they are make it possible for researchers to do their work.

I know folks at all the local FFRDCs. Mostly really smart and mission driven people.  A lot of them could have made more money in other organizations.    [/quote]

Not sure I buy this point. The pay range for a "Technical AI Policy Associate" at RAND is listed at $47,100- $156,500, requiring a BA but preference for a higher degree. (https://rand.wd5.myworkdayjobs.com/en-US/External_Career_Site/job/Washington-DC-DC-Metro-Area/Technical-AI-Policy-Associate_R3217-1)

RAND is paying a "Grants Proposal Manager" between $75,700-$112,400, requiring a high school diploma but a BA is preferred. (https://rand.wd5.myworkdayjobs.com/en-US/External_Career_Site/job/Washington-DC/Grants-Proposal-Manager_R3234)

That difference is absurd. In what world does a grant proposal manager with a HS diploma get paid up to 50%+ LESS than a Technical AI policy researcher? This is the kind of thing DOGE should be digging into - it's waste and bloat hiding in plain sight!

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*Correction: That difference is absurd. In what world does a grant proposal manager with a HS diploma get paid up to 50%+ MORE than a Technical AI policy researcher? This is the kind of thing DOGE should be digging into - it's waste and bloat hiding in plain sight!
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The AI position isn't even government funded. And if they underpay, they won't get good people. Why would that be your business,.or DOGE's? [/quote]

It’s my business because I’m a taxpayer and my employer (a defense contractor) has to compete with these bloated FFRDCs.[/quote]

Ummm … contractors cannot do FFRDC work and Vice versa [/quote]

You are incorrect.

CNA is one that has separated its Gov contracting work from its traditional FFRDC work. [/quote]

I work at CNA and can confirm. That's what the Institute for Public Research does.[/quote]

Yes, I hear things are getting a bit rougher on the gov contract side of things at CNA. [/quote]

They are. Everyone is getting hit in different ways.[/quote]

CNA just posted openings on LinkedIn for Flight Test Engineers at Edwards AFB. One might think this would require an AeroE degree, but actually any STEM degree qualifies...for example Biology. [/quote]

I went looking for the job descriptions all prepared to join in the indigence, and … they want an AeroE or other technical degree, [i]and[/i] skills/knowledge specific to flight testing. I’m not seeing the problem here.  [/quote]

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