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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Hey 27 pages and let’s not forget the most important thing: there’s still no real good evidence for a god of any kind! Shouldn’t there be? And wouldn’t someone have presented some after 27 pages?[/quote] Someone claimed “objective evidence” earlier. Still waiting on that. [/quote] Missed that post but objective evidence is not necessary for validating religious beliefs/ knowledge. It can’t be done via the scientific method. [/quote] Invalidating religious beliefs/knowledge (proving the negative, or proving the belief that God does not exist) also can't be done via the scientific method. It is by definition impossible. Though if you use the definition of objective as "unrelated to feelings," then perhaps you can throw out[b] a collection of facts that skew to one side or the other. [/b]Evidence != proof.[/quote] Such as? [/quote] If gravity were slightly different, it's possible that after the big bang none of the higher order elements required to sustain life would exist. If the strong nuclear force were just 2% different then stars would be radically different and life as we know it would not exist. If the ratio between the gravitational force and the electrical force between a pair of atoms was different, then either the universe would have collapsed back on itself or it would fling out too far for life to exist. Those are facts, right? What you do with them is up to you, of course. You could say it's just selection bias that it happened this way. Or you could think Someone was fine tuning the universe to be as it is. At that point you get away from either objectivity or facts. "The laws of science, as we know them at present, contain many fundamental numbers, like the size of the electric charge of the electron and the ratio of the masses of the proton and the electron. ... The remarkable fact is that the values of these numbers seem to have been very finely adjusted to make possible the development of life" - Stephen Hawking [/quote] Piling on to this incredibly stupid post: Your first three sentences are claims that you have ZERO evidence to support - and can't, because we have only one universe to explore. Zero evidence claims about science, unsupported by scientists, scientific data, or research. [/quote]
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