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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]outside of the professional programs, duke’s other areas are lack luster.  Its med, business, and law are a touch below the majority of the top 10 schools. but again; the non professional programs are sometimes significantly worse.

im talking chemistry, biology, physics, engineering in aggregate

engineering in particular outside of biomed is particularly meh.[/quote]

So the list of USNWR top 10 undergrads that are top 12 in business, law, and medicine (ranks* in parentheses) are (alphabetically):

Duke (12, 4, 6)
Harvard (6, 4, 1)
Penn (1, 4, 6)
Stanford (1, 1, 8)
Yale  (7, 1, 10)

These five schools are excellent in that their professional schools all rank highly like their undergrad.  There are other schools, like Columbia and NYU, whose 3 professional schools rank top 10, too, but their undergrads were not ranked in the top 10 (and therefore did not make the list above because this thread is about USNWR top ten undergrads).

* Used 2023 rankings for medicine since these were the final time that USNWR assigned numerical rankings to med schools
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While choosing top 12 here for MBA is a little odd, I suspect that the poster was trying to debunk the point a previous poster made that Duke’s professional programs lag those of other top 10 undergrad programs since it’s one of only 5 that can make this specific claim, with a later poster identifying the 4 universities that can claim top 10 across the board.  To say that Duke lags the other top 10 undergrads when it comes to professional schools is not accurate since there are 5 other undergrads in the top 10 that don’t even clear this bar.

With that said, weird amount of specificity in this board. Duke is a top 10, in a cohort that probably looks like Penn, Duke, and Northwestern.  Only Stanford and Harvard can reasonably lay claim to being “the best”, with Stanford probably being the best university on the Laney across the board at this point.

Anyways, my bold prediction for when the full rankings come out is that Brown tumbles (like Dartmouth did last year) and falls to being the lowest ranked of the Ivy League again.  Not that bold, I guess.

Have a good weekend, and stay safe. [/quote]

US News might rank Brown low but kids want to go to Brown at least as much as they want to go to Duke.[/quote]

if Duke's professional schools were actually as good as Penn's, they would attract the same caliber of students.  Why don't we take a look:

Penn LSAT/GPA: 172/3.93
Duke LSAT/GPA: 170/3.87

Penn GMAT/GPA: 738/3.6
Duke GMAT/GPA: 710/3.53

Penn MCAT/GPA: 522/3.97
Duke MCAT/GPA: 518/3.87

https://www.law.upenn.edu/admissions/jd/entering-class-profile.php
https://law.duke.edu/apply/classprofile
https://www.med.upenn.edu/admissions/entering-class-profile.html
https://medschool.duke.edu/education/health-professions-education-programs/doctor-medicine-md-program/admissions/admissions-5

Penn is more selective on the acceptance front as well across these professional programs.  The non-professional components of Duke's grad schools look worse by other metrics too.[/quote]

Ok this is somewhat fair but honestly my kid is at a different ivy and they keep telling them that almost all premeds get in to US med schools even if they are below average gpa and now I get it because this undergrad boasts average 517 MCAT for med school applicants...so ...the top half definitely have a great shot at top med(Duke is good enough for DS are you kidding) and the bottom half will get in to decent US med schools too. [/quote]

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