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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Huge cultural chasm here. America does not have the same testing traditions you find in just about every other country in the world. Americans believe in never quitting more than they believe in winning. That's why footbalk teams that lose hard fought games get celebrated almost as though they won.[/quote] The difference is every other country in the world has clear rule and transparency. [/quote] Another difference is that America rewards persistence. Many other countries give you just one chance to measure up in life. Not so in the USA. [/quote] Test measures persistence. It's for 12 years of persistent education Also they do reward persistence with sort of GPA together with Test I don't care if you do GPA only Test only GPA + Test, GPA + Test + whatever. The important thing is clear rule and transparency. [/quote] the only thing you are asking for is how much was spent on making sure those scores were achieved. that's it. and not an amount, a percentage of income. if a 400k family spends 40k and an 80k family spends 8k its the same type of leg up, it is. I am so tired of test prep being a replacement for intelligence and capability. [/quote] Same for GPA, ECs, Essay, etc. I think test score is at least most objective and fair, so that disadvantaged intelligent and capable students get chance to compete. [/quote] Standardized testing has racist origins in the U S (and was used to justify segregation in the military and schools)., is culturally biased ( "pre test" questions that were answered correctly by most blacks were thrown out), and today is more a reflection of household income , test prep, and superscoriing. Not even close to objective. Most of the 1,900 colleges that are now test optional will remain after the AA ruling. Good.[/quote] +1 Those arguing against this are just upset their kid has "lost their advantage" of privilege. Also, they apparently do not understand the numbers---there are simply many more kids with 1400/1450+ SAT and "qualified for elite schools" than there are spots. So most will be rejected. Nobody is entitled to a spot at an elite school, nobody. Once you recognize that and plan with great "target schools" you will be happier. Focus on the goal---getting your degree and starting a career, which can be done at a school ranked #30[/quote] you kid got 1300 SAT?[/quote] I can see reading comprehension is not your strong point. Nowhere did it state that. My 1500/3.99UW, got WL at 2 Top30 schools, Deferred then rejected at their ED1/T10, and accepted at 3 with excellent merit in the 30-50 range and got "go overseas first year at a T60 know for those programs" during a year it had single digit admissions. But they are happy, because they had excellent Target schools and Safety schools, and seriously considered their top safety (ranked in 60s) up until the very end. They recognized that reaches are exactly that---a reach. They got into all their targets and safeties. They will go far in life because of their drive and motivation and that exists no matter where they actually attend college. Note: they are surrounded by equally smart kids, some who got into T25 schools and choose this one instead (and trust me, it's for the school itself because the location is not an attraction). Btw, my kid who got ~1300SAT did not even think of T20 schools because that is not the place for them. They got into a T100 school, graduated, got an amazing job and is excelling at life, despite not having a 1550+ on their SAT. [/quote]
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