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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Ok.  Everyone is disappointed when their hard working student does not get into a desired college.   That is true across the board.[/quote]
Yes, but private school parents seem to be blaming the private school, as if paying for the $$ private school should mean they should get special treatment.[/quote]

I have no dog in this fight but it seems the position of the private schools is that their kids with lower GPAs are being evaluated more harshly. Like the appropriate adjustments are not being made for the rigor of the grading. [/quote]

This. My kid has been in public and private. Public school was not rigorous (even though it’s one of the “top area public schools). My kid’s gpa would be much higher in public. Maybe colleges were never really distinguishing between the rigor of schools or mandatory SATs disguised this.[/quote]

The public school applicants have AP scores to validate their grades. If we're talking about public school kids applying to the type of schools the OP think he kid deserves to attend, you are talking about a lot of 4s and 5s in classes with curriculums that are supposed to be consistent across all schools offering the course. [/quote]

Is it MCPS where you get an 82 one semester and a 92 the next and they end up with an A for the year? That’s the crazy grade inflation I’m talking about.[/quote]
Indeed, but as a PP stated, just look at their AP test scores.

Everyone games the system to their advantage.  Kids will put in the minimal effort to get the A, but when it counts like the AP test scores, they will show their ability.

Lots of public school kids get majority 5s on APs and 1500+ SAT scores. No amount of grade inflation is going to help with the AP test scores.[/quote]

I don’t care about AP scores. The colleges are screening by GPAs which are artificially inflated. [/quote]

AP scores validate or discredit a GPA. They are the one objective measure of course rigor that colleges have. Schools can talk about how rigorous their classes are until they are blue in the face, but a kid with and A and a 5 in a similarly titled class from a no name public school is going to be viewed as having done well in a rigorous class. [/quote]

There are many schools that don't do AP for many unique and valid reasons. [/quote]
What valid reasons do private schools use to get rid of AP classes?[/quote]

They think they can create better classes. [/quote]
Yet, based on the grade inflation argument, AP exams (and classes) are really the only objective measurement of ability.  Basically, private schools are getting rid of AP classes because they don't want to pay College Board. IMO, it's a financial reason.  Their teachers aren't even certified teachers.

When I see job postings, I always see how the employers want certifications in abc, xyz, but I guess for private K-12, certifications need not be required.  I guess it's because they don't get paid as much.   Private school parents are happy to spend $$ on schools being taught by teachers who don't get paid that much and aren't certified.  Then, those same parents expect high results for college admissions.

Go figure.[/quote]

Go figure that people can approach the same issue differently than you.  You want to bow at the altar of the college board go ahead. Some people don’t and that’s a choice. [/quote]

Sure. just don't complain when the choice haas consequences that you don't like [/quote]
+1 rich private school parents complaining about public school grade inflation, public school bowing at the altar of the college board, and then get upset because their larlo's college admission was lackluster.

Go figure.[/quote]

Not every private school parent is upset. Nor is every public school parent happy. If you use this board as the measuring stick for that you’re naive. 
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"this is why I choose private" parents are upset.[/quote]

Is it not unreasonable for private parents to be upset if their kids are being DISADVANTAGED in the application process in a way that is unfair? (Lack of adjustment to GPA for higher rigor, tougher grading)[/quote]

You do not have the data to back up this statement.  You have not been able to show that the students getting in from public school are less deserving than private school kids.  All you have is one or two stories of kids from your local publics getting into a school your private school peers were not getting into.  And you have absolutely no way of knowing why. There are very high quality public school kids and public schools with high rigor. Regardless of what you think about grade inflation etc, An A student from my kid's high school with 12 APs is outstanding.  Not all kids are able to do this by far.  There are a few and the kids know who they are.  And other than the athletes, these are the ones getting into the T10 schools, UVA Echols etc.

For the T10 schools, so many many applicants are highly qualified.  When one kid gets in over another, it can feel arbitrary and capricious.  The only thing that has changed recently (if anything) is that private school kids are also feeling the randomness of the process which they were protected from in years past.  But get over this idea that your children are disadvantaged. [/quote]

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