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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous] I have a family member who works at a place like the white lotus. It’s a pretty good job compared to others at his education level snd especially in the location. It’s interesting that dcumers are largely viewing the hotel jobs as akin to toiling in the salt mines or inherently very demeaning. My family member would like to make more of course but it’s genuinely a pretty good job he enjoys and is glad to have. [/quote]

What’s the background of your family member? For Kai’s character the job is demeaning. The government stole his family’s ancestral land and he’s working a crappy job on his own land.[/quote]

It's not really demeaning though. He might feel some internal conflict - as he expresses to Paula - but he seems to feel like it's a pretty good job, worth holding onto. Then she whispers in his ear...[/quote]

Yes it is, did you purposely ignore the part about his family’s land being stolen? He’s working this job bc his family doesn’t have a lot of money and he has to support himself somehow, anyone would feel demeaned and maybe even traumatized by working a low wage service job on land they rightfully own. This, by the way, is similar to the real stories of many native Hawaiians, similar to Native Americans here. Are you really this clueless?[/quote]

You realize when he says "His family land was stolen" he does not mean the exact spot where the resort sits but Hawaii as a general place right? Do you think he means the exact spot the resort sits on? Are you really that clueless?[/quote]

No idiot, he literally says in the show that land owned by his family/community was taken by the US government and sold to hotel developers who built the resort. That’s why his family is suing for that land and they’re pissed that he works there. [/quote]

What year do you think that happened, given Hawaiian history? Do you think Kai was alive then?[/quote]
NP.
It was hard from what little he said whether this was generations ago, or more recent.
Eminent domain seizures still happens in the US. They take land from lower class and middle class for developers. Usually they give a “fair” price but the developers still make a killing on it.
This is one where they “condemned” land in Hawaii so they could have a public beach. They started the process in 2011 - not 1911.
http://www.hawaiifreepress.com/Articles-Main/ID/17385/Hawaii-ICA-Bungles-Hanalei-River-Eminent-Domain-Case
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Have you heard any cases of eminent domain being used to build a hotel? I haven't, but I am willing to look at any links to stories suggesting this might have happened to Kai during his lifetime.

Not trying to diminish the cruelty toward native Hawaiians. But I think we have to keep the likely timeframe in mind when considering how Kai talked and what he did, too.[/quote]

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