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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Just look at US News & World Report and be done with it.[/quote]

I don’t think so.[/quote]

Why not?[/quote]

Why?

Seems like USNWR often changes its ranking formula in order to jumble up their list to get more eyeballs and clicks. Would be bad for USNWR business, if the top 10 was the same every year. Was a joke when they listed Chicago at number 3. HYPSM should be alone in the top 5 every year until they are knocked off their respective perches. USNWR lost credibility with me with the #3 Chicago ranking a few years back. Chicago should be somewhere in the 6-10 range. No way Chicago deserves to be at number 3. This is not an attack on Chicago but [b]how many students would choose Chicago over Stanford.[/b] 1 in a hundred maybe.[/quote]

Student preference shouldn't be factored in rankings. Many reasons why a kid will choose one school over another, like Cali weather or grade inflation, etc.[/quote]

Of course it should be factored. It means that one school is getting a much stronger student body and the other not. It would be like a NFL draft where HYPSM gets to choose all the players in the first 5 rounds.[/quote]

But that doesn't mean you can create tiers out of it. It's not like after the 5th round, the students suddenly become unintelligent and undistinguished. There's no sudden drop in student caliber after HYPSM.[/quote]

There is some drop in student caliber after HYPSM but neither as minimal nor as severe as the pp suggests.[/quote]

do you really think that the students admitted to Caltech aren't identical to those pruning a science degree at HYPSM? Chicago and Harvey Mudd actually have higher SATs scores for incoming students than any of them [/quote]

Well, think it this way. If a kid who went to Caltech also got an acceptance from Stanford, he would have gone to Stanford.
Only a student who didn't apply to Stanford (because he calculated that he would not get in), or applied but got rejected by Stanford, would consider Caltech. We can assume this probably is true for most students who went to Caltech. In other words, this self selecting process by students gives Stanford a better student body statistically. The public perception of the school prestige, superficial or not, plays an important role in determining the caliber of the student body and takes ages to change.

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