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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][list][quote=Anonymous]ok so your kid knows one smart athlete. when you get to a top college it is striking how different the academic strengths are of the athletes vs the non athlete. [/quote]

I was an athlete in college and its always amusing to me that some people feel the need to put young people in categories.

If you are an Olympic swimmer ... OK cool, but the law of nature is assumed to be that that's all you got and you are - aside from that an idiot.

To the contrary, what is born out is that being a really good athlete takes more than talent. It requires a great deal of perseverance, determination, high pain threshold and enough of an imagination to dream big... then never give up.

In other words, after 3 hours a day of that for 4-6 years since age 13, AP Physics might just be a walk in the park. Especially, if Dad was a science geek.[/quote]

I was an Ivy league athlete. While there were exceptions, my teammates were nowhere near as intellectual, well educated or thoughtful as my friends who weren't on the team. Some teams had a higher level of academics (mens crew, most womens sports), but the men's teams, gimme a break...[/quote]
 when was this, 1990? I think things have changed a bit in Ivy admissions since you attended...[/quote]

Not according to the Harvard data.

The issue isn't whether athletic recruits are minimally qualified academically for Harvard, it's whether they are equally academically qualified compared to non-athletes, such as musicians who have practiced 3 hours day for many years.  In most cases, as a group, athletes had inferior academic qualifications.  It doesn't mean they aren't intelligent on an absolute basis, though.[/quote]

As a former college athlete I remember this debate well. I also remember the people who immediately made assumptions about me once they learned I was an athlete on a scholarship.

I have since noticed that truly intelligent people are not given to make assumptions about others- or be jealous.

To insist against evidence that a person can be a gifted athlete and very intelligent is reflective of something other than fact though.

Perhaps this idea persists not just because of envy, but because athletic ability is on display and measured in competition weekly whereas who is to say who is really a genius.

So my kid got a 36 or a 1600 and has a 4.0. Unless she wins a Nobel prize or a Pulitzer how is it to be established that she is also a great intellect ?

KInda like with athletics, intellectual gifts are decades to fruition- if the person does reach their potential.

So a kid got a 36- and gets into Harvard or Stanford or MIT. They are still just a 17 year old and this proves Zero [/quote]

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