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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][list][quote=Anonymous]ok so your kid knows one smart athlete. when you get to a top college it is striking how different the academic strengths are of the athletes vs the non athlete. [/quote]

I was an athlete in college and its always amusing to me that some people feel the need to put young people in categories.

If you are an Olympic swimmer ... OK cool, but the law of nature is assumed to be that that's all you got and you are - aside from that an idiot.

To the contrary, what is born out is that being a really good athlete takes more than talent. It requires a great deal of perseverance, determination, high pain threshold and enough of an imagination to dream big... then never give up.

In other words, after 3 hours a day of that for 4-6 years since age 13, AP Physics might just be a walk in the park. Especially, if Dad was a science geek.[/quote]

I was an Ivy league athlete. While there were exceptions, my teammates were nowhere near as intellectual, well educated or thoughtful as my friends who weren't on the team. Some teams had a higher level of academics (mens crew, most womens sports), but the men's teams, gimme a break...[/quote]
 when was this, 1990? I think things have changed a bit in Ivy admissions since you attended...[/quote]

Wrong. Why do you think that the academic threshold for athletes is different than the general population. Yes there are exceptions. Olympic athletes are freaks and not  your average college athlete. Those people have 1 in 100 million skills that would allow them to be successful almost anywhere. [b]Having said that, not every olympic athlete is a michael phelps. for every one of him there are a half dozen ryan lochtes[/b]. [/quote]

What does this even mean? Because Michael Phelps is an amazing athlete but Ryan Lochte--the second best American swimmer ever--is not??? Or are you trying to say something about intelligence? Michael Phelps didn't graduate from college, but Lochte did. And Lochte went to U of FL, not Harvard, so I don't think he's the type of athlete people are complaining about. The types of athletes people are complaining about are those going to the most competitive schools. So people like Maya Dirado (Stanford), Katie Ledecky (Stanford), Dean Farris (Harvard), Ryan Murphy (Cal). Do you people really think these swimmers shouldn't have been admitted to these schools? Maya Dirado had a perfect score on the math portion of her SAT at 15, entered Stanford at 17 and went on to win Olympic medals. One of the top swim recruits at Stanford for this year is from this area and has perfect GPA from what I understand. Are there swimmers (and other athletes) who aren't super bright? Sure, but they aren't going to Stanford, Harvard, etc. The idea that Ivies and other top schools are admitting a bunch of knuckleheads is ridiculous, at least with respect to certain sports, swimming being the prime example.

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