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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]There have been many cases of documented out of body experiences that can not be explaned through normal scientific means.  If a body and a person's mind can exist in two different physical places, that means they must be connected through a "supernatural" means, ie a soul.

[/quote]We can induce out of body experiences in a lab. First done in 2007. Not so mysterious anymore. [/quote]

Really?  How?  And a link please?[/quote]

I'm not the PP, but here's a link : http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/6960612.stm

NDE can be recreated, too. They've been reported by those who experienced blackouts when under extreme G forces. I don't think it happened to every subject, but enough for me to consider it as recreated in a lab. [/quote]

That's not inducing an OBE, that's making someone feel like they have had an OBE.  If you can do in the lab what the PP said was done with the old man and the broken arm, then I'd be convinced.[/quote]

Well that's the point, isn't it?  If they couldn't see the scientists manipulating them, they would think they were having an out of body experience, and people like you would claim it is proof of God.  But now that a scientist reproduces it, it doesn't seem so special.  So it's "on to the broken arm baby".   And then onto the next example of paranormal activity, and the next.  But as for OBE, this link is just one example.  You can put a current across the temporoparietal junction and achieve the same effect. http://www.jneurosci.org/content/25/3/550.full  Some people on Salvia have out of body experiences.

If you want to zap your brain and take salvia, come back and let us know if these did not qualify as "real".

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