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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I went to a very Asian HS. The grades and scores they get are to be taken with a grain of salt. Many Chinese go to "Cram School" . Parents actually would request next year's text books early and they would go to a Cram school 40 hours a week all summer learning mextd years material.

The white, black and Hispanic kids enjoyed summer. No Cram school.

So is a 98 worth more than a 96 if the 96 did no Cram school? Well no one will confess to Cram school but in personality assessment it kinda shows up.

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But...but...hard work is a positive personality trait![/quote]
It is. Would you rather work with lazy people ? [/quote]

I think you are missing the poster’s point.  He or she is saying that it may not be worth it to do school at the expense of everything else in life just to get an extra few points.  The poster seems to be questioning whether it is worth it.  I totally agree that hard work is a positive personality trait.  But i’m Not sure some of the things my child’s friends go through  are worth an extra few points.  My child has recounted several friends’ stories about abuse (physical and emotional), lack of any academic freedom or autonomy (parents choose classes and tell the child what they are going to do to prepare, which includes cram school), choosing and restricting the child’s college major, etc.  the kids she knows excel academically but they are depressed and anxious.  They have no joy.  My child does very well and will go a good school (not ivy) but she is happy and well adjusted.  Is it worth what her friends are going through to get into Ivy over another good school (assuming they do because it’s not a sure thing for anyone)?  I say no.  And I think that is the point this poster is trying to make.  Any kid who is doing well enough to be a serious contender for an ivy is working hard.  With very few exceptions, that is the baseline.  You have to bring something else to the table. [/quote]

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