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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Everyone whose employee premium, deductibles and copays have skyrocketed for their employer provided medical coverage, raise your hands.

Everyone who is paying more for medical insurance and getting less, raise your hands.

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Tomorrow, when the sun comes up after the moon goes away are you going to believe that the sun made that happen?

Fact is, health insurance premiums, co-pays, and deductibles have been increasing while coverage has been decreasing for many, many years; it's not new since the ACA.[/quote]
Wait. Are you the PPP who said she had employer-sponsored health insurance? If so, you're not one to talk.

Pre-Ocrap, we didn't see annual increases of 50% and more - even doubling - while deductibles increasing....meaning....wait for it....we are paying much more now AND for much less coverage! Before, I had a reasonable co-pay for specialists, but now it's all out-of-pocket until I reach some godforsaken deductible. I used to pay $40 for labwork, and now it's $250 (the negotiated rate). I never paid $300 for a prescription before, but I do now!

And you know why? Because Obama worked it so the insurance companies would have to cover everybody for everything. There's no way an insurance company can come out ahead doing that without enough healthy people to offset the sick (which we don't have because an onerous penalty would have been ruled unconstitutional), and yet Obama, in his socialist dream state, went ahead with this anyway. So since the insurers couldn't get more money from the low-income, they turned to the middle-income for zooming premiums, Plus, they could make up the costs by also denying coverage until you reach an ever-increasing deductible.

I mean, really....is paying $24,000 a year (for a couple) on top of potentially another $13, 000 is costs counted as "insured"? When they couple is in their 50s and earning less than $80,000 combined?

I agree with the PP who said we need to have short-term gain in order to force Comgress to act, and a good place to start is with the illegal CSRs. They were only allowed to continue because if we stopped popping up this House of Cards, it wold all come crashing down. Let it. Let the poor people go to the ER, just like before Obamacare - and just like they keep doing even with the free insurance.[/quote]

No, I'm not that PP.  Have you ever had cancer or a chronic illness?  Are you one of those people who think that you'll always be healthy?  Two of my kids get Remicade infusions every 6 weeks.  They cost $5-15 thousand or more every time, for each son.  If you get cancer or a chronic illness, you'll be begging to pay only $24,000 a year.  Honestly, the fact that people like you in this country will tell my kids, that through no fault of their own that they should just be bankrupt their whole lives because they had the misfortune to get a chronic illness (and, no, we have no family history), is indicative of the what a shortsighted and selfish country we live in.  Hang a fucking American flag on that.[/quote]
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By paying for your kids, someone else can no longer afford to pay for theirs. Why are yours more important?[/quote]

Why aren't they?[/quote]

Because of individual rights in this country. Your rights end where mine begin. Same for your kids. Liberals are so compassionate that they want another child to suffer so theirs can be treated free or cheaply. [/quote]

You're assuming that I want my children treated free or cheaply, which is not the case.  I want them to be able to GET and KEEP adequate insurance so that they can work and not become disabled.  But, I still don't understand why the hypothetical kid who's suffering shouldn't but mine should?  Why do you get to decide that?

My kids don't do pity or excuses or expect free care.  The oldest is graduating from college early in December and he has a job at a major company in the financial services industry.  He's done everything he should be doing to be productive, but people like you are happy for him to be fucked over because he had the misfortune to contract an expensive chronic illness as a child.  The youngest is only 14, but I'm quite sure he's shown more courage and compassion in those 14 years than you ever have.  [/quote]

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