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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I just read an article that said it was the fault of the air traffic control man who was doing two jobs and did not confirm things with the helicopter pilot. Why isn't anyone talking about that? Is it because he is a white male? He admitted it.[/quote]

Good for you, now read the nTSB report recently released in full. To get real facts and the whole picture. This was a nightmare unskilled pilot and error-riddled ride. [/quote]

It’s really mystifying why after so many mistakes he left her in control in probably the most dangerous air space in the country.  I don’t know if the rank thing makes a difference…is it more awkward to do that to someone that outranks you?  There were lots of things that went wrong that day but his failure to take controls for the DCA cross over seems like one of them.  
But no one should have ever allowed such an insanely dangerous aviation intersection. [/quote]

Have you ever told a woman, "No."?[/quote]

Of course, yes.

This is clearly misogynistic, narcissistic, instructor, who literally guided his helicopter into a plane.[/quote]

Was he under the influence of anything? Sleep deprived? Which is just as bad as under an influence. Were either of them suicidal? Did he think of Lobach as more than his colleague? What was the third pilot doing if on that heli?[/quote]
His wife said he slept well, did not take drugs, and only drank on special occasions. She said she didn't keep alcohol in the house and there's no way he was drunk. The third pilot was observing I believe. [/quote]

Did they gather any evidence from the phone or belongings of the third pilot who was on the helicopter observing? Was he higher ranked? Trying to understand if Eaves was guiding her incorrectly, or she was not understanding, or he tried to make advances for all we know, or she was under stress from something, and if that third person observed could have intervened. We won't know now I guess.[/quote]

That’s all in the NYTimes summary and nTSB report. 
[b]He[/b] had to verbally correct her poor decisions multiple times before they got to the DCA area. Then there he told her several times to correct her location and altitude.

Her responses each time were immature and unprofessional: I’m dizzy, the chair is in the way, oh I’m dyslexic at flying.

W T F. [/quote]

Are you talking about Eaves? 
Asking about O'Hara the chief crew who was on with Eaves and Lobach. Did, or did it seem O'Hara could have done "something"?? if he sensed friction between Eaves and Lobach (was this in the report and Times article too?)[/quote]

What, specifically, do you think O’Hara  (the crew chief) [b]should[/b] have done?
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Do you read? The question was were there any details in report or box to indicate O'Hara could have assisted in the BH to avoid what happened?[/quote]

Of course I read. My point is, there is nothing O’Hara could have done. [b]He was not a pilot. [/b]
So what exactly do you think could have been in the report?[/quote]

Is that all you think? Have you ever been in or known a situation where someone outside the two parties (de)escalated whatever may have been taking place? as a poster said, we probably won't know now, but the question was was there any details in report or news write-up indicating O'Hara played any role or tried to help or not help, or give clues as to the situation inside on that BH flight.[/quote]

Only if O'Hara was on his phone and they have a record log of who he contacted and interview them. Unlikely tho[/quote]

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