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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Yale committee concludes that colleges and universities have completely lost the plot:

“High costs, murky admissions practices, uneven academic standards and fears about free speech on campuses, the committee said, are among the reasons for widening discontent over higher education’s worthiness.

The findings reflect misgivings that Americans have described across years of polling and interviews. But the report, from a 10-professor panel at one of the nation’s most renowned universities, amounts to a damning depiction of academia’s role in cultivating the political and cultural forces that are reshaping higher education’s place in American life.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/15/us/yale-report-colleges-unversities-trust.html?unlocked_article_code=1.bVA._ebw.-PVgolGZ4r5r&smid=url-share[/quote]

The Yale committee is not wrong. $100,000 per year is ridiculous. [b]The preference for athletes, FGLI, rich kids, faculty kids, connected kids, and soft racial preferences undermines any school's credibility[/b]. Having to be wary of whether you are for Trump or for Palestinians does undermine free speech and makes a campus stifling. And when people realize there are like three spots available at a school like Yale for a standard valedictorian from Des Moines or, alternatively, the suburbs of DC, NY, and SF, it's not surprising people are a little cynical of schools like Yale. Yet, despite abandoning any illusions of a meritocracy, the Yale grad has all sorts of opportunities that other graduates don't.

And this isn't exclusive to Yale. Anyone who has gone through the process of applying to top 20 schools knows how much BS is involved. Good for Yale for pointing it out.    [/quote]

Nonsense, it never has and never will. The credibility issues were about woke gone too far, nothing else.[/quote]

DP. Disagree. The credibility issues were also about opacity, behavior inconsistent with mission, and confusion about the mission itself.

When people have no idea what your admission standards are, how much they’ll pay, what behavior is tolerated, or your guiding intellectual or academic principles are, you’re going to have a problem.

Yale Committee nailed it.[/quote]

No they aren't. Such things were mentioned in the spirit of full coverage but it all boils down to "woke" and preferences for blacks and Hispanics.

Admissions opacity is driven by the number of kids applying and that the vast majority look basically the same. The UMC public consistently forgets how large this country is and that their HS "standout" has one or more doppelgangers in each of the 27,000 or so high schools acrioss the country. Their kid is excellent but by no means as unique as they believe. [/quote]

Cut and paste the part of the report where you're reading this please.  That may be your opinion, but that's not what was discussed in this report.   The admissions section was about wealth, not woke.[/quote]

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