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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]People here have a weird idea of what STEM means. LACs have ST and M. Williams College has a strong physics program, for example. They have won more Apker awards than any other undergraduate physics program in the US, regardless of size..[/quote]

Goldwater is actually known and a better barometer.

Go see for yourself how many Goldwaters have been produced over last 5 years by Williams/Amherst vs Ivies, JHU, CMU, MIT etc.  The difference is stark.  Keep in mind an institution can have a max of 4 so size is not a determining factor.

https://goldwaterscholarship.gov/2025-scholars/[/quote]

Why don't you quantify what the "stark" difference is?  You link to the 2025 results.  Amherst had 2 which is the same number as Duke, which has 3.5X more undergraduates and the same number as UVA, which has 9X as many undergraduates.[/quote]

goldwater is limited to 4 regardless of school size. how many did Williams have? bow down Harvard, MIT, Ivies, Hopkins, and other top privates over last 5 years. Such idiotic analysis[/quote]

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