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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Yes, I have enough money to weather the recession that will cause poor people to become even poorer and most of MAGA other than the Uber rich to suffer.   I am banking on him just keeping one of his many promises for this outcome to occur.  [/quote]

What you’re saying is you’re a Trump supporter because you and yours will benefit. Forget about the mythical people who will suffer, they vote for sport, if they vote. Things getting worse won’t change their loyalty, it won’t change yours. Sure you voted dem, but you weren’t in a swing state you knee you’d get the benefit of Trump all the same.[/quote]

DP I do not think there will be these huge benefits with Trump. He has only promised to raise taxes, round up migrants(legal and illegal) and deregulate everything. Trump has no tax cut plan. I do not know where people are getting that a huge tax cut is coming. In a deregulated stock market the retail investors are the mark. If the markets burn down like in 2008 there will not be a bailout. Could you imagine Trump dealing with a market crash like 2008? I just know if I feel pain(which I think is going to happen) the vast majority will feel a lot more pain.

I just do not care about them. I do not feel a part of this country anymore. I certainly do not care if Trump bust doors down in Miami to drag out the 1 in 4 illegals in living in there. They voted for it. I do not want money going for hurricane relief or any federal spending in red states. The Republicans want to destroy the federal government and end the transfer of wealth around the country. Do it. There was a reason Appalachia was poor and not developed. There are reason people did not build on the coast. There are reasons why you need locks on the Mississippi.

This “oh everything is going to be great with markets” is herd mentality. We have been on a long run. People think the markets can only go up. A correction is due. Trump is going disrupt the world’s economy which is based in free trade. Taxing Canada and Mexico equals thousands of jobs loses within a few weeks and increased prices. The commercial property market are in a slow motion crash and it’s all highly leveraged.

Look at this little gem.

[quote]
Republicans reportedly ready to cut Medicaid funding to pay for Trump plans
House and Senate Republicans float ideas to pay for Trump’s immigration crackdown and to fund tax cuts[/quote]
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jan/23/republicans-medicaid-funding-trump

There will be a lot of pain coming and it is not on me to make things less painful. Specially for the people who are going out of their way to give  me the finger. [/quote]

This is very well put.

Mostly I think people with money will weather this better.  But it will be a crisis for sure and it will be ugly.

Trump and MAGA are so clueless about how the global economy works that it is painful to watch. And isolationism has never served our economy and standard of living well.

Biden oversaw incredible economic growth over the last few years that allowed Americans the luxury to sit back and worry about a minuscule number of transgender athletes.  Biden had the United States positioned to be an economic behemoth in the green economy, which is coming as sure as the combustible engine did a century ago. Trump is destroying it out of spite.

None of us will benefit from this but MAGA apparently doesn’t want to listen to experts and would prefer to learn it personally. [/quote]

This is naive. People with money will weather it better, and so they will vote for it again in greater numbers. The notion that the low information voters will rise up and do better next time is silly. Life already kicks them in the face, they expect that, they aren't going to blame trump, he's their entertainment.[/quote]

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