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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Harvard and Stanford are 1 and 1a. MIT is great too but is still the other school in Cambridge. They don't have nearly the resources either. With real estate estimates, Stanford has the most $$ and in terms of pure endowment, Harvard has the most $$ of any school. Should we be shocked they are both great in pretty much every area. [/quote] Berkeley is great in pretty much every area of academia that it offers. Harvard is not great in Engineering. [/quote] It's faltering. The whole UC system is faltering. Medical school at UCLA having problems. Engineering may be the only place where UCB is still pretty strong but since it went test blind the students are bailing out of engineering and into easier majors at a record pace. It is really hard to pick engineers just by looking at transcripts.[/quote] I've wondered how "Top 20" Berkeley and UCLA select their students these days. Due to state law, only 15 percent or so can be from OOS, unlike Michigan for instance, which has a much more national pool of students. The UCs cannot even look at SAT or ACT scores, which do have a pretty high correlation with student performance in college. They can't look at race either, which is why Berkeley is now even less than 3 percent Black. They get an absolutely massive amount of applications. UCLA got nearly 150,000 this year. Berkeley was only a little lower. There is no way admissions officers are carefully reading 150,000 essays. Grade inflation has been rampant for years now, so GPAs don't tell that much. And anyone applying now also had their schooling negatively impacted by COVID during their formative years, particularly in a really restrictive state like California. What information are Berkeley and UCLA even using to admit the best and brightest? [/quote] They use grades, class rank, ECs, essays and (maybe?) AP scores. No SAT/ACT or letters of rec. I think they pay temp workers to read the essays.[/quote]
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