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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Wow, this thread.

I am curious what the security guard's behavior would have been if OP was a man.

I also used to read in the car at this age while my mom ran errands. She generally gave me a choice. She would not have left the car running so the choice would have been "stay in the uncomfortably hot car and read or come on the boring errand with AC." I usually chose car because I like being warm and love reading.

Some of you are overstating the risk of carjacking. Also isn't the security guard there to prevent carjacking?

I do this sometimes when I need to run in the house to grab something (we live in an apartment building). If I know it will only be a couple minutes, and I can look out the window to check on DC if I need to. DC knows how to get out of the car and come in the building on their own if they needed to.

It's actually good for kids to earn some independence and trust as they get older. It's good parenting to give them opportunities to be alone in public spaces in small doses. In a few years my kid will be in middle school and will be riding a public bus to school on their own. How will they reach the point where that is possible if they are never left alone in public for even a few minutes before the age of 10?[/quote]

“She would not have left the car running…”

OP left the car running. OP created an unnecessary risk to her child and others.

OP is an idiot. 
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PP here. Agree I wouldn't leave the car running.

But if OP had turned the car off and cracked windows people would be yelling that she'd risked hot car death (by leaving a child old enough to get out if the car and come find her inside in a car with open windows for a few minutes).

If we had more sane attitudes about supervision of kids this age OP could have just cracked the windows and this would be socially confined. Heck, In a functional society OP should have been able to tell her son "if there's an emergency, talk to that security guard over there" and then let the guard know her son was in the car and the guard would be like "cool, thanks for letting me know."

But we live in a non functional society where leaving a 7 year old who can walk and talk and read and write alone for a few minutes is "child neglect." Meanwhile there are actual cases of child neglect that never get prosecuted because most neglect happens in private homes.

It's idiotic. Did you know in Denmark parents routinely leave babies in strollers outside store and restaurants so they can finish naps? Because they have a social agreement that children are a collective responsibility. They are happier and more well adjusted people than we are [/quote]

We are not in Denmark.  The couple from Denmark who did this in nyc got in big trouble.[/quote]
Crimes against children are not wildly different between the US and Denmark and in both countries the offender is usually known to the victim [/quote]

You comment has nothing to do with what I said. Please read carefully and slowly.  Everything I said was factual.  Here is the story:

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/danish-om-still-stung-by-97-arrest-for-leaving-baby-in-nyc/353952/[/quote]
It has everything to do with what you said. It only makes sense to compare Denmark to the US if they have wildly divergent rates of crimes against children. They do not. We are being hysterical and it makes society miserable. [/quote]

No, we are not talking about being 'hysterical'. We are talking about societal norms in the US and leaving your kid with the car running whether legal or illegal is not the 'norm' anymore.  The person from Denmark  forgot they were not in Denmark.  Leaving a baby outside while you have drinks inside in NYC is not the norm.  So she and her partner got called out.  When in Rome act like Romans!

Look, you can fight the system but, if you lose than you lose your whining rights.  Jaywalk and get hit by a car?  You lose because you aren't going to win against a car.  Leave your kid outside in the car instead of dragging his butt inside?  Someone might notice and call you out.[/quote]
Well thank you for admitting its about one-upsman-ship and not safety! [/quote]

Well if that's what you got from what I said it seems that  you mom or dad left you in a hot car and fried a bit of your brain![/quote]
You literally wrote it's about cultural norms. How do you people function on a daily basis? Just admit you're a busybody and you get off on it. [/quote]

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