Reply to "Not a Meritocracy"

Forum Index » College and University Discussion

Reply to ""Not a Meritocracy""

Subject:

Emoticons





More smilies

Text Color: Font: Close Marks

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Ok.  Everyone is disappointed when their hard working student does not get into a desired college.   That is true across the board.[/quote]
Yes, but private school parents seem to be blaming the private school, as if paying for the $$ private school should mean they should get special treatment.[/quote]

I have no dog in this fight but it seems the position of the private schools is that their kids with lower GPAs are being evaluated more harshly. Like the appropriate adjustments are not being made for the rigor of the grading. [/quote]

This. My kid has been in public and private. Public school was not rigorous (even though it’s one of the “top area public schools). My kid’s gpa would be much higher in public. Maybe colleges were never really distinguishing between the rigor of schools or mandatory SATs disguised this.[/quote]

The public school applicants have AP scores to validate their grades. If we're talking about public school kids applying to the type of schools the OP think he kid deserves to attend, you are talking about a lot of 4s and 5s in classes with curriculums that are supposed to be consistent across all schools offering the course. [/quote]

Is it MCPS where you get an 82 one semester and a 92 the next and they end up with an A for the year? That’s the crazy grade inflation I’m talking about.[/quote]
Indeed, but as a PP stated, just look at their AP test scores.

Everyone games the system to their advantage.  Kids will put in the minimal effort to get the A, but when it counts like the AP test scores, they will show their ability.

Lots of public school kids get majority 5s on APs and 1500+ SAT scores. No amount of grade inflation is going to help with the AP test scores.[/quote]

I don’t care about AP scores. The colleges are screening by GPAs which are artificially inflated. [/quote]

AP scores validate or discredit a GPA. They are the one objective measure of course rigor that colleges have. Schools can talk about how rigorous their classes are until they are blue in the face, but a kid with and A and a 5 in a similarly titled class from a no name public school is going to be viewed as having done well in a rigorous class. [/quote]

There are many schools that don't do AP for many unique and valid reasons. [/quote]
What valid reasons do private schools use to get rid of AP classes?[/quote]

They think they can create better classes. [/quote]
Yet, based on the grade inflation argument, AP exams (and classes) are really the only objective measurement of ability.  Basically, private schools are getting rid of AP classes because they don't want to pay College Board. IMO, it's a financial reason.  Their teachers aren't even certified teachers.

When I see job postings, I always see how the employers want certifications in abc, xyz, but I guess for private K-12, certifications need not be required.  I guess it's because they don't get paid as much.   Private school parents are happy to spend $$ on schools being taught by teachers who don't get paid that much and aren't certified.  Then, those same parents expect high results for college admissions.

Go figure.[/quote]

Go figure that people can approach the same issue differently than you.  You want to bow at the altar of the college board go ahead. Some people don’t and that’s a choice. [/quote]

Sure. just don't complain when the choice haas consequences that you don't like [/quote]
+1 rich private school parents complaining about public school grade inflation, public school bowing at the altar of the college board, and then get upset because their larlo's college admission was lackluster.

Go figure.[/quote]

Not every private school parent is upset. Nor is every public school parent happy. If you use this board as the measuring stick for that you’re naive. 
[/quote]
"this is why I choose private" parents are upset.[/quote]

Is it not unreasonable for private parents to be upset if their kids are being DISADVANTAGED in the application process in a way that is unfair? (Lack of adjustment to GPA for higher rigor, tougher grading)[/quote]

The colleges are aware of the high schools and how to evaluate the students do there is no disadvantage.   Private school kids get into top colleges at a higher rate than public.  The disadvantage works the opposite way than you describe.[/quote]

Options

	Disable HTML in this message
	Disable BB Code in this message
	Disable smilies in this message

Review message

Search Recent Topics Hottest Topics