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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][b]They can’t get rid of athletic preferences or they won’t be able to field a team.  It makes no sense.[/b]

I still don’t see how colleges won’t be able to still keep doing it with.holistic admissions .  The whole process is such a random crapshoot anyway,  [/quote]

Maybe sports really shouldn't be that important to colleges.  Much better things to spend the money on. [/quote]

Maybe people should learn that colleges (especially elite colleges) are seeking students who have leadership potential, and that sports are an outstanding way to develop and demonstrate leadership.[/quote]
How, exactly, do sports develop and demonstrate leadership potential?

Take football, for example. The calls are made by the coach/coordinators. The QB is the captain and has some decision making for the team. The linemen meanwhile are nothing more than meatbags. Wide receivers and running backs follow the path laid out by the play decided on by the coach. Where's the leadership? The athletes are low-level pawns, not leaders.

And what about individual sports like swimming, track, etc.? Who exactly are the athletes leading, themselves?

The only purpose of sports is physical activity, which is good for both mental and physical health. But that shouldn't require the 12+ years of highly expensive training that the applicants to these top schools go through. It's nothing more than a filter for wealth. [/quote]

Tell me that you never played team sports without saying you haven't played team sports. [/quote]

I've played multiple team and individual sports. But go ahead and refute my point, show me how being a meatbag on the line improves leadership skills. [/quote]

If you think playing team sports is important then you should give the hook to anyone who played team sports in high school. Why do they need to be good?[/quote]

What? No one is talking about being good at sports, we're talking about whether sports improves leadership skills. I'm saying they don't.[/quote]

New to this discussion but I disagree with you. If you have ever been part of a team that is run by a good leader (includes captains and coaches) and you buy into it, you learn A LOT about what it takes to be a good leader.  And if you are a good teammate, you know that it is important to emulate those leaders in their absence, whether it be on the team or in other situations in life. I've never been on a huge team like football, but for smaller teams it's really important (soccer, lacrosse, field hockey, basketball, ice hockey, baseball)  I've been on adult league teams that are run very well and others that aren't. It's a HUGE difference and affects everyone on the team. It had taught me a lot, even as an adult, and has made me a better person and a better leader (at work, home, play)[/quote]

Which means athletic recruiting is unnecessary. Don’t pick the best athletes just pick random athletes because they’ve all learned these lessons even if they are bad. [/quote]

I can guarantee you most colleges & universities would have no trouble filling their teams in the absence of athletic recruiting. Plenty of high school swimmers would love to swim in college but cannot afford club swimming, and therefore do not get recruited currently.[/quote]

And Disney would drop the SEC before you could blink if Alabama and Georgia were playing with walkons [/quote]

They broadcast Ivy League football. Those players are worse than the walk ons at Alabama. Nice try. The jersey is what people care about not the quality of play [/quote]

Ivy League games are never on ABC and never on ESPN during Saturday slots and the schools aren’t getting paid nearly the same as P5 conferences [/quote]

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