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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Somewhat off-topic, but my DS is a first year at UVA. With the news about the shooter’s multiple guns in his room and what the University knew about him before Sunday, my DS is feeling enraged at the University administration. He wants to mourn these students but not feel that about his college. [/quote]

I'm not sure how the university would know he had guns in his room. They were informed by someone not affiliated with the school that he purchased a gun and directly asked the roommate as well as the shooter, who both denied the presence of a gun. The person who told them he bought a gun had also not seen a gun. They can't just randomly search someone's housing on a comment that someone bought a gun. Not sure what your DS thinks the school could have done differently. He was notified just weeks ago that he was going to be disciplined, which who knows, may have pushed him over the edge.

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I am pretty sure that the school can search a room if they suspect something dangerous or illegal, or of course they can call the police. This kid already had lied about a gun charge, and failed a gun background check twice.

Not sure why so many people are acting like he is some innocent lamb who deserved a second chance. The people he shot were the innocent lambs...to the slaughter. [/quote]

So you think just someone who is not associated with the school saying he owns a gun is enough to search his room? And no, UVA is not doing background checks on all of their students on a rolling basis. I personally think it will come out that the school did what it could to prevent it (though who knows really), this is a mentally ill man who bought a gun legally.  Unfortunately until we do more to tighten gun laws, this is going to continue to happen.

I get the PP's kids anger, I have two kids at UVA. One is PISSED. He is pissed about the politics of gun reform and he is pissed at the inaction of politicians.   My DD is asleep in her room, nearly in tears all the time. Just sad. Kids react differently so I definitely feel for the PP's student, but we really don't know alot about what the school could or could not have done to prevent this so I would encourage him to go to the memorial tomorrow and try to process this senseless act with his community and family.[/quote]

Well, their housing policy says they have to enter any room at any time for "any reasonable purpose."

https://housing.virginia.edu/housing-terms-undergrad#student_conduct[/quote]

Yes these are the reasons:

"Allow University staff or their agents to enter residences for work orders, routine maintenance, inspections, repairs, emergencies, or housekeeping duties, or any other reasonable purpose, at any time."
Conducting a search is not included in these reasons.[/quote]

Let me guess, you are not a lawyer.[/quote]

No I'm not a lawyer so assuming you are, please explain the reasons why he does not have the same rights as we all do under the fourth amendment?  He denied he had a gun, his roommate did not see a gun in the room. Under what grounds would they be able to SEARCH his room? yes I know they can enter to do routine maintenance but they cannot search.[/quote]

It's on campus housing. You have less of a privacy right in on campus dorms than you do in a private residence. The policy says "for any other reasonable purpose." The Univ had a reasonable purpose. Also, not that it really matter, but the original news reports have been amended, the person who reported him having a gun was a student. [/quote]

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