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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Explain why Asians have to score higher than everyone else on the MCAT and have to have significantly higher GPAs than certain groups in order to get into medical school:

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It is literally using race to hold people to different standards.  Which is racism. [/quote]

There is not one school in the country that is saying Asians must have higher scores and GPAs in order to be admitted. Because that WOULD be racism. You're just making that assumption based on others with lower numbers being admitted. But the reason they're admitted is because they offer something else the college values, not because they're not Asian.[/quote]

They don't have to say, but the numbers clearly show that their actual actions are stating otherwise.  Asians have to score higher on the MCAT and have a significantly higher GPA.  It is clearly based on their race. [/quote]

So you think entire teams of admissions officers, plus all the other officials who are aware of their policies, are in on a secret plot to deny admission to Asians? And not one member of those teams has the integrity to come forth and speak the truth, which would lead to a very quick loss in court? If so, you're worse than QAnon.[/quote]

They are.  You are not allowed to speak out against the diversity machine.  We're so progressive that we've become racist.  Why don't you look into why Asians have been denied at top universities.  Soft reasons for why Asians have been denied by admissions officers at Harvard were due to 'personality scores' based on perceptions that an Asian student would probably 'study too much and not do well with team work' or that an Asian student basically had 'no sense of humor'.  Basically, Asian students being denied because they were perceived as 'not being able to keep it real'.  I mean what kind of BS nonsense is that, other than stereotyping Asian students based on their race. Yes, there is absolutely systemic racism at universities because university admins have no spine to stand up to the diversity and social justice warriors.  Diversity doesn't really mean diversity....it only means apply exceptions to the rule for a very, very select group while discriminating against others.  [/quote]

You're swimming in QAnon waters with your conspiracy theory. No one has created a personality test to target a specific population.[/quote]

Wrong:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/15/us/harvard-asian-enrollment-applicants.html

Next you'll try to tell me NYTs is a QAnon source.[/quote]

Nothing in that article says that the personality test was created to exclude Asian applicants. That's your assumption. It would be ludicrous for anyone to create such a test for such a purpose. Almost every admission officer would refuse to use it, and they would be publicizing the blatant racism inherent in such a practice. On any measure, some group is going to score lowest. That doesn't mean they're being deliberately discriminated against.[/quote]

You can try to explain away all you want, but no one believes your trash.  Harvard *consistently* gave Asians lower 'personality scores' compared to all other racial groups.  Of course they'll never admit that it is designed to weed out Asians because they can't do it based on test scores since Asians do far better. They had to come up with other BS ways to cut them out based on soft ideas like their perceived personality.  The personality scores strongly correlate with race, which just goes to show you how racist it is.  Imagine giving a black student negative personality scores because of a perception that they may 'disrupt the class' or 'be a trouble maker'.  How racist would that be?  That's the same type of discrimination Asian students have had to eat because of their race.  [/quote]

Absolutely, this is very shameful and Harvard has not apologized. Alum interviewers who actually met the applicants gave them personality scores on par with everyone else. The admissions office personnel gave Asians lower personality scores, which fit into racist tropes about Asians lacking in personality etc. It was absolutely to round out what they wanted in terms of diversity.

I'm not opposed to affirmative action or diversity actually. But Harvard's approach was really gross and it only came out because of discovery in this case (when all those applicant files were turned over).

- Asian Harvard alum[/quote]

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