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Religious groups have come to understand that mission schools and the like were bad, and religion should be adopted voluntarily.

[b]You’ve been told multiple times that this  [b]doesn’t make them any less religious[/b], just that they conduct their missions in different ways now—through example. Hope the bolding is helpful and you get it now. [/b]

You should be celebrating that instead of trying to make “fetch” happen with this tedious and fake hair-splitting about what “religious” means. [/quote]

Sorry, but their efforts are undistinguishable from those of secular organizations to me. Regardless of their motives.  If the religious folks have given up trying to spread the word of Jesus and God that's a good thing I guess.  :thumbup: [/quote]

Once more with feeling:

[b]Missionaries have not given up their mission of spreading the word, they just do it differently now, through pamphlets and example. This (1) doesn’t make them any less religious, and (2) it doesn’t change the “mission” nature of what they’re doing.

Missionaries have not given up their mission of spreading the word, they just do it differently now, through pamphlets and example. This (1) doesn’t make them any less religious, and (2) it doesn’t change the “mission” nature of what they’re doing.

Hope that’s helpful. Do you finally understand?[/quote]

DP. Why should they not be banned? 
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Asking people to justify why they should be free to practice their religion is a tyrant's way of thinking.[/quote]

Practicing your religion independently is one thing. Imposing it on others is another.

You can do what you want in your own home and church. Once you step out into the world you need to respect others’ beliefs. 
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My belief is that sharing my faith is important, why won't you respect that? You're perfectly happy to impose your lack of religion on me and force me to abandon a central part of my faith. You want to "ban" it even so what would you do to people who break your law? Jail? You're a tyrant, like I said.[/quote]

Because it involves other people. You can’t force yourself on other people. 
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It's sharing a belief. You're sharing a belief with me right now (missionaries should be banned) should that be illegal? It "involves other people" after all, are you "forcing yourself" on me?

Personally, the idea that you're "forcing yourself" on someone by sharing a belief with them sounds crazy to me, but that's what you're saying. I wouldn't jail you for your belief, as much as you want to jail me for mine.[/quote]

Coming from an anonymous person on a mommy website is a little different than coming from a doctor who just performed a life-changing surgery on you. It’s abusing a power imbalance.

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DP. Pp’s point is that you exemplify the power imbalance when you insist that your views (as a privileged and probably white DCUMer) trump her views and [b]the views of poor people [/b]who are on the receiving end of the mission charity you want to take away.[/quote]

Are the people in need insisting on having religious assistance vs. secular assistance? Or do they want assistance with no strings attached.

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