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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The point is - if there weren't athletes their academic grades and scores would not get them in.  [/quote]

Here's the thing:  at top colleges [b]no[/b] student gets in solely on the basis of grades and test scores.  This is America, not Asia.  That's not how things work here.[/quote]

True but the athletic path to top colleges has been corrupted by money like so many other things.  Not every sport, but many have been monetized to the max and function as exclusionary clubs for the athletes with the discretionary income to afford it.

My athlete is in one of the sports so I see it first hand.   The league is not full of the most gifted athletes.....it is full of the most gifted athletes that can pay the money....and many of them are excellent....but many are simply not involved due to the cost.     And it is clearly intentional to get kids from this demographic.   The kids have to buy PLANE tickets, regularly to participate.  WTF?   That serves no real purpose on terms of learning or improving or excelling at the sport.  It serves to keep kids out.   It's been corrupted.[/quote]

How is this different from academics in general? Kids get paid tutors, outside math courses, parents buy expensive houses for good schools, etc. I don't disagree that there is corruption, but it extends far, far beyond athletics.

Our best universities have never been filled with the most gifted students. They are filled with the students whose parents could buy the best education.[/quote]

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