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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I think maybe Nelson is laying the foundation that the half eaten pills later found in the police cruiser, could have  changed the original autopsy reports, information the experts did not have when they wrote their findings. [/quote]

I think the pills are relevant to some of the defense arguments because they contained meth (not at super high levels though) and [b]were ingested or attempted to be ingested at the scene[/b]. Which the defense is insinuating counteracted the opioids and might be why Floyd wasn’t nodding off. Again not saying this is a super strong argument but the implications of “speedballs” have definitely come up. The meth levels in the pills and the meth levels in the toxicology report are not very high. One of the experts testified the meth level in tox report is consistent with a therapeutic dose of methamphetamine.

I guess that another aspect of bringing up the pills is that it might slightly discredit the state in the eyes of the jury, but I’m not sure that effect is super strong here since it’s a former police officer at trial. I guess it has some effect but I’m really not sure. I thought the BCA witness handled the explanation pretty well of how they were originally processing the car for the swabs on the plexiglass divider, then they sealed the car and reprocessed it when the request to process for the pills came in. I’m not sure why the pills wouldn’t have been seized for evidence the first time. I suppose it could be as simple as that explanation, but it is still problematic. [/quote]

FO with the bad attempt to manipulate social media. Were you also here posting before the election trying to normalize fascism?. The bolded is not a fact azzhat. [/quote]

I’m not arguing this was a cause of death or an effective defense. The meth levels tested in the pills and tox were low, which is also in the post. They were found in the squad car with Floyd’s DNA, so I don’t think it’s much of a stretch to conclude what happened inclusive of the video from scene. It doesn’t exonerate Chauvin. The defense seems to be using the meth content to attempt to create reasonable doubt, since medical experts will testify that opioids make people nod off. But the autopsy and tox levels are more relevant than the pills. I guess Nelson could use it to try to discredit the autopsy but that doesn’t seem credible at this point. The main reason the pills have been brought up by the defense so far is the “speedball” aspect. That doesn’t mean it’s true, but the defense has to present their case. The prosecution has also openly presented addiction, because ignoring it could damage their credibility.

I don’t believe addiction is a character flaw. Addiction is a disease.

My personal opinion is the pills are basically irrelevant. I think it’s strange they weren’t immediately tagged and processed because of how generally thorough the investigation is, but I don’t think that it helps the defense that much. But I guess it comes down to what he can convince jurors of. I would guess an average juror would not be swayed by the defense so far. [/quote]

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