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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Agreed. And Jews should not celebrate Christmas, either. [/quote] Most of us don't![/quote] I know of ZERO Christians who host Seders. BUT, I know of MANY, MANY, MANY Jews how have Christmas trees!![/quote] Whoa. Calm down. First of all, just because you don’t know any doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen. Second, a Christmas tree is hardly equivalent to a Passover Seder.[/quote] Right... Because it doesn’t impact your religion so it doesn’t matter. [/quote] Hardly. First of all, most Jewish families don’t have a Christmas tree. Interfaith families do, but hardly any wholly Jewish families. [b]Second, the Christmas tree is not a religious symbol. [/b]It’s not like a nativity scene.[/quote] Thank you for clarifying what is a religious symbol for Christians! I’ll follow your lead and clarify what you should consider a religious symbol in Judaism, sounds good? [/quote] If a Christmas tree is generally considered a religious symbol, please provide evidence of such, and I’ll gladly admit I was wrong. [b]We’ve provided ample evidence of why it’s inappropriate for Christians to have a Christian Seder[/b]. [/quote] Your evidence is that Christians should trash half their holy book because many prophets and traditions overlap with Judaism. You keep saying Passover is Easter when it is not. You want to erase half of the Christian tradition because you think the stories in the Old Testament/Torah/Qran belong only to Jews. That’s a nonstarter. I do not accept that Passover that is described in the Bible amounts to appropriation or that it is Easter—a separate holiday. [/quote] Dude. Where is the Passover Seder in the bible? Where is the matzoh, the charoset, the bitter herbs dipped in salt water? The Passover seder is a Jewish religious rite. The Christian religious rites centered around the story of Exodus and Jesus’s Last Supper, and the analogy of Jesus to the lamb sacrificed to save the Israelites is Easter. Full stop. In addition you have the Eucharist if you are Catholic or your church has communion. Nobody is saying you cannot celebrate Easter. [/quote] Right. We’ve explained the difference between rabbinical and pre-rabbinical Judaism SO many times on this thread. Jesus lived in pre-rabbinical times. The Passover described in the Bible is Jesus going to the Second Temple and sacrificing a lamb, as was commonly done at Feasts at the Temple. He wasn’t doing a Seder. [/quote] What I don’t get about these posters is why they can’t grasp that in Christianity Jesus IS the sacrificial lamb. Jesus may have been Jewish; but his role as the Messiah and God’s sacrifice for man is literally what makes Christianity Christianity. There can be no such thing as a Christian seder, not unless you are explicitly or implicitly putting Jesus into it. Which of course is the whole problem. [/quote]
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