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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Oops! Forgot to include #3 - not sure what you meant by Christians discarding the Tanakh except for the Ten Commandments. I don’t believe this is true, although there are laws, etc. that modern Jews and Christians don’t follow. [/quote] I mean, there’s plenty that Christians embrace that are totally antithetical to what Jews believe. Judaism isn’t some primitive version of Christianity.[/quote] Of course not; I wasn’t suggesting it is. [/quote] But that’s what you imply when you talk about how Christians should be able to just celebrate Christian Seders, when Jesus wouldn’t have had a Passover Seder, as they didn’t exist then. Passover existed, but not as a Seder. Why not just acknowledge it as the Last Supper? Maudy Thursday is all about that, right? How is incorporating elements of a rabbinical Passover Seder enhancing or informing Christianity, when those traditions didn’t start until 70-600 years after Jesus died? [/quote] Because It is about redemption, God’s love and protection, and the importance of retelling history.[/quote] And none of that has anything to do with rabbinical Passover. [/quote] To whit: you can claim the Last Supper, and the lamb sacrifice as something Jesus participated in as part of that, but you don’t get to tell us what rabbinical Passover is about. That was hundreds of years after Jesus died and was exclusively a Jewish matter.[/quote] No one is trying to tell you what Passover is about. You are trying to tell others why they can’t find meaning in it for themselves. If they believe it informs their religion or enhances their belief in God isn’t that a personal experience? One that doesn’t take away from or erase your practice or beliefs? [/quote] We’ve explained many, many times how it’s disrespectful to take a Seder, which is wholly Jewish and was conceived of 70-500 years after Jesus’s death, and making it about Jesus is disrespectful. The Last Supper was not a Seder because Passover wasn’t celebrated that way then. We’ve told you many times about how it amounts to erasing what is wholly a Jewish experience. We can’t stop you from doing it. We can only tell you what it is.[/quote] NP. Raised Catholic. I heard about Christian seders in the 70s growing up, and I always felt uncomfortable about them. "Appropriation" didn't have the same weight back then, but that's what it was, and is. Passover supper? Sure. But "seder" draws on the weight of Jewish history and oppression.[/quote] DP. We used to have actual interfaith seders with the Jewish congregation in the 70s/80s. [/quote]
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