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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]"Demonstrating commitment" is total BS. Even a job does not require this and it provides a livelihood. The college admission is racketeering.[/quote]

Guys, you are all understandably frustrated and embittered, but using hyperbole like "racketeering" is not helpful and also untrue.  The colleges are doing their best in a difficult situation.  And let's face it, for the most part we are speaking of 50-100 of the 3,000 colleges in the US, so maybe that is the issue?

I will simply ask this: what could the colleges do that would make it better for everyone?[/quote]

Exactly this. There is a guide to the top 386 colleges - get that and look at numbers 101 through 300. These are all accredited schools where anyone can learn a lot. Yes, your kid may have a smaller peer group of advanced students, but your child will have plenty of resources. [/quote]

+1 -- I work at a university ranked outside the top 100 but with a solid reputation that is included in the Fiske and Princeton Review guides. Plenty of my colleagues, who graduated from HYPS, send their kids to the schools (generally in Honors program) because it's tuition free. My colleagues have been very pleased with the education their kids received and they've gone on to excellent grad programs and careers.

The problem is not that top ranked schools need to get bigger. The problem is that parents/students need to stop their obsession with rankings. Expand your kids' list to include some schools other than the usual suspects (including safeties) and you'll be fine. The second problem is this idea that test scores are so meaningful and students with a 1500 SAT deserve a top school. Plenty of schools have been test optional for a while and have data to show that those kids still succeed. I believe test optional is here to stay, so everyone needs to get used to that.[/quote]

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