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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous] Why does closing the achievement gap mean RAISING the achievement gap for one group and lowering it for another? Isn't that taking it even further apart?? LOWER it for the URM. But don't RAISE it for Asian Americans! [/quote] You're not actually raising the threshold for the Asian or White child. You're creating a bell curve for White population and Asian population, and certain White or Asian children may be 'screened out' based on a peer comparison because they are on the very high end +2SD or into +3SD (as a WISC score of 150+ suggests) or didn't receive as good of an overall rating as compared to the other White or Asians against which they were compared. For the +3SD, the parents should really be looking elsewhere as some posters have noted here. FCPS is not the right setting to serve these children and hopefully the parents have some understanding of this. The reason for the screening out the high end of the curve is to serve the White, Asian, Hispanic and AA population that are relatively comparable. Though even in this scenario, the population of White and Asian accepted into the program score much higher than Hispanic and Asian. All of this is also largely predicated on demographics of the school, both for feeder and center schools. If you're in Colvin Run or Churchill territory, you're looking at Hispanic/AA population at approx 5% and 10%, respectively, for the center schools and the feeder schools. Think about that! We are talking combined ethnicities. You have a very small pool of Hispanic or African Americans who will be considered for AAP. Compare that to Mosby Woods and the feeder schools for MW, where the range of Hispanic/AA go from 20% to 35% (sometimes equivalent to the number of Asians). Is it possible that FCPS screened out more Asian or White kids in Mosby Woods center based LIV program compared to that of Colvin Run or Churchill? It's most likely what occurred. As an Asian or White in the MW center/feeder schools, your competition is also a lot stiffer. You're competing for a seat that is being challenged by not only more Hispanic/AA representation (since FCPS won't be able to meet their quotas in schools like Colvin Run or Churchill or other few), but also a stiffer White and Asian population. Your Asian kid might have gotten a 140 CoGAT and 2F. The other Asian child received a 136 on CoGAT but a 4Cs. My bet is that the latter Asian child getting through but the former getting rejected. You may follow up with the WISC, but if most of the spots are already gone at the center, it makes it hard for the appeals process to work in your favor. Even with a high WISC score. I think that's why when FCPS says they look at AAP admissions "holistically," we really should think much bigger picture than an individual's packet. Their holistic approach is noting some much larger. [/quote] So now people are arguing that some Asians should be denied AAP due to being overqualified? As if they would be better off in Gen Ed? Or should they leave FCPS? They cannot be served in AAP because AAP needs to be watered down in order to accomodate other populations. Or as someone else noted earlier, excluding these applicants is the easy solution to closing the score gap of accepted students by race.[/quote] I get that some Asians and Whites are upset that their child tested as a high achiever or perhaps even truly gifted and didn't get into AAP LIV. That's life! It's no different than what your kid could experience applying to TJ and not getting in or applying to Harvard/Princeton/Yale and not getting in. It happens. And it happens a lot in life. Suck it up. Accept it. Understand that there is inherently limited space and that FCPS is looking at race (especially when the program is audited for equity gap). And, in a fully holistic review of what FCPS wants in its class of this year and what was in your child's package, something was triggered which left your child out of luck. You job now is to figure out how you can help your child to stay on their path of success. You would have had to do that anyway if your child is truly gifted. If you want to try again next year, go for it. FCPS allows you that ability. You may or may not be successful, but don't wallow in the rejection. It's moot. Figure out a different way to help your child. It's not that hard. (At least not at this stage. It will get much harder if your child continues on their gifted path so best to get started sooner rather than later.)[/quote]
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