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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Statistically it is wrong to to assign a numerical store to its school because the margin of error of its data sources is greater than the difference of the scores.

They should rank schools in tiers:

1. Super elite tier: HYPMS

2. Elite tier (6 - 15): Columbia, Penn, Chicago, Duke, Brown, Dartmouth, Cornell, ...

3. Top tier (16 - 30): These schools are equals in terms of prestige and rankings -- UVA, Michigan, UCLA, Cal, CMU, Emory, Georgetown, NYU, USC, Georgia Tech ...

4. Wake Forest, W&M ...

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Why is Cornell in tier two?[/quote]

First Tier:  Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Yale, Princeton, Caltech  (even within this, there is an understanding that those admitted to Harvard and Stanford, and perhaps MIT in STEM areas will generally choose those schools over the others)

Second Tier:  Columbia, Penn, Duke, Dartmouth, Brown, Chicago

Below second tier, I think it is a lot harder to make distinctions needed for meaningful tiers.  Clearly Rice is going to be above Rochester, but it is much more difficult to separate them as the two tiers above.   Even on second tier, I'm starting to debate whether to add Williams, Amherst, Pomona, etc.

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I wouldn't put Amherst and Williams on Tier 2, maybe 10-20 years ago but not today. Personally to say Columbia, Penn, Chicago, and Duke aren't peers Of HYPSM put Caltech is... is odd. 
Tier One- Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Stanford, MIT, Columbia, Chicago,

Tier two- Northwestern, Dartmouth, Brown, Johns Hopkins, Duke, Caltech, Penn

Tier three is rather large- Vanderbilt, Cornell, Rice, Notre Dame, Emory, WashU, Georgetown, UCB, UCLA, Williams, Amherst, Swarthmore, CMU

3B- UVA, Umich, Tufts, UNC, USC, NYU, Gtech, Bowdoin, Middlebury, Wellesley

Tier 4- Wake, William& M, Rochester, Boston College, Davidson etc

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I don't see that clear of distinctions on your tier 3, 3B, 4.  A number of those may be great graduate and research universities, but not sure about their commitment to undergraduates.  Caltech should be tier 1.  [/quote]

The ones in three are typically ranked 15-20. Some of them aren't 20 right now but have been in the recent past. The ones in 3B are typically 25-30. [/quote]

Wellesley is ranked #3 for SLACs and has been #4 or #5 every year for the past 20+ years.[/quote]

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