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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Statistically it is wrong to to assign a numerical store to its school because the margin of error of its data sources is greater than the difference of the scores. They should rank schools in tiers: 1. Super elite tier: HYPMS 2. Elite tier (6 - 15): Columbia, Penn, Chicago, Duke, Brown, Dartmouth, Cornell, ... 3. Top tier (16 - 30): These schools are equals in terms of prestige and rankings -- UVA, Michigan, UCLA, Cal, CMU, Emory, Georgetown, NYU, USC, Georgia Tech ... 4. Wake Forest, W&M ... [/quote] Why is Cornell in tier two?[/quote] First Tier: Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Yale, Princeton, Caltech (even within this, there is an understanding that those admitted to Harvard and Stanford, and perhaps MIT in STEM areas will generally choose those schools over the others) Second Tier: Columbia, Penn, Duke, Dartmouth, Brown, Chicago Below second tier, I think it is a lot harder to make distinctions needed for meaningful tiers. Clearly Rice is going to be above Rochester, but it is much more difficult to separate them as the two tiers above. Even on second tier, I'm starting to debate whether to add Williams, Amherst, Pomona, etc. [/quote] I wouldn't put Amherst and Williams on Tier 2, maybe 10-20 years ago but not today. Personally to say Columbia, Penn, Chicago, and Duke aren't peers Of HYPSM put Caltech is... is odd. Tier One- Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Stanford, MIT, Columbia, Chicago, Tier two- Northwestern, Dartmouth, Brown, Johns Hopkins, Duke, Caltech, Penn Tier three is rather large- Vanderbilt, Cornell, Rice, Notre Dame, Emory, WashU, Georgetown, UCB, UCLA, Williams, Amherst, Swarthmore, CMU 3B- UVA, Umich, Tufts, UNC, USC, NYU, Gtech, Bowdoin, Middlebury, Wellesley Tier 4- Wake, William& M, Rochester, Boston College, Davidson etc [/quote] Williams, Amherst, Swarthmore, Pomona definitely belong in tier 2, and I'd bump Caltech to tier 1 and Chicago to tier 2[/quote] I don't agree, I know several students that were rejected or waitlisted to [b]Vandy, Emory, WashU, Rice, CMU[/b] and accepted to Amherst, Williams, or Swarthmore to say those latter 3 are better than the former. I think there the same level. And CalTech isn't better than MIT in anything.[/quote] That's probably because those schools give a bump to kids who are full pay, while the WASP schools are fully need blind.[/quote] You're just speculating. All of these schools are need-blind. The LAC's in my experience have difficulty campaigning non-white students particularly Asian students. That's not the case for major universities especially Emory and Rice. Thus many students may have an easier admittance to Williams than Emory for that reason. [/quote]
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