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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]OP sounds like he/she has a problem with Black people.  He/she assumes that, one,  Black people are the only group that benefits from Affirmative Action. Two, Black people by nature are less qualified than whites.  Three, every time a Black student is admitted to a highly selective university, it is at the expense of some white student.

OP, how many more qualified students, regardless of "race", are declined admissions because of a lower qualified legacy admit?[/quote]
Wow. Just because I am opposed to giving preferential treatment based on race, rather than the more fair policy based on SES that would help all disadvantaged children REGARDLESS of race, I have a "problem with black people"? And it is *I* who assume black people by nature are less qualified??

Au contraire. It is the liberals here who are up in arms to defend a policy that favors one race over another, with the assumption that blacks NEED to have lower standards in order to achieve. I, by comparison, realize it is not skin color that disadvantages someone, but rather [b]financial hardship [/b](which of course many blacks experience). Thus, I would expect that a middle-class black kid, with educated professional parents, would get just as good grades as her white classmates and therefore requires no "leg up" for admission. It is the poor students, black and white both, who are at the disadvantage, and an SES-based AA  policy would help them.

And while not every white student loses out to a black student who gets poorer grades, when you create a lower-level "sub-class" of black kids, who are required to compete only with one another, you absolutely are costing SOME white kids the spots. The shame comes in when it is a white kid who, against all odds, grew up in poverty and still attained high grades in school, yet loses out to a middle-class black kid who did not do nearly as well.

It really seems that we have some extreme leftists on this forum, and unless a person supports a policy that helps blacks while concurrently hurting whites, they start in with the racist accusations. The racists are the ones who insist on favoring lower-scoring blacks over better-scoring whites, due solely to skin color, while concurrently making disdainful remarks about "white trash" and how community college is good enough for white boys.

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Why are you only focused on black students, not other URMs?

Or athletes - Ivy League colleges don't give athletic scholarships so maybe it's a rich, white LAX bro taking Billy's spot?

Or legacies - so it's OK for rich kids to take that spot?

Why do you assume that the poor white kids are "losing spots" to middle-class black kids? You are completely speculating on demographics. Maybe it's all rich white kids who aren't getting a spot - is that any better?

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What other URMs? The Jews? Asians? (Oh wait.....)  The only other URM I can think of who are URM are Latinos, and they get preferential treatment as well. But not as pronounced as blacks. But I oppose preferences there too. I think the BEST students should get in, with some extra consideration given to low-income students. I'm not insisting that "white trash" should go to "community college" like some of the liberal racists on this forum.

As far as Richie Rich, I've already said I'm opposed to that - but that when big donors are at stake, or championships, [b]you can't change it.[/b][/quote]

So you just accept that Harvard [i]needs[/i] to have a rich, white LAX bro over poor, white Billy. That is simply [i]unchangeable[/i]. But trying to lift up URM kids - specifically black kids? Absolutely worth changing.

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