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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Profile of Fall Admission  UChicago & UVA

Overall admission rate   UChicago  8% of 31,484           UVA  30% of 30,840
of admitted, %Students enrolled    65%                                41%
SAT Math                                     765 avg                            679 avg
                        mid 50%             730-800                           630-740
SAT Reading                                760 avg                            665 avg
                        mid 50%             720-800                            620-720
ACT composite       avg                   34                                  30
                        mid 50%              32-35                              29-33

[b]source: college data .com[/quote][/b]

[b]Use the SCHEV data for fall entering class 2017 at UVA.  It's much more accurate[/quote]

from research.schev.edu//enrollment/BIO_FreshmanProfile.asp

for UVA  top 75% SAT of 1480   [UChicago 1600]
for UVA SAT median of 1400      [UChicago 1525]
for UVA low 25% SAT of 1320    [UChicago 1450]
for UVA ACT median of 32         [UChicago  34]
for UVA top 75% of 33              [UChicago   35]
for UVA low 25% of 29              [UChicago   32]

this comparison indicates that UVA student class is significantly broader in range of academic performance/attainment - UVA attracts some high performing academic students - UChicago has a significantly "tighter" distribution of test results.

This isn't meant to spark any controversy about the two schools - they are very different institutions and student experiences - but data can be helpful if taken with context.[/quote][/b]

You're comparing apples to oranges.  [b]Admitted and enrolled are two different set of stats.[/b]  Here are some of the UVA admissions stats for ADMITTED students (you are using Chicagos ADMITTED students:  94% in top ten percent of their class, etc.  https://news.virginia.edu/content/uva-releases-admissions-decisions-and-uva22-begins-trending-grounds.  SCHEV provides the actual enrolled student data which is lower because a number of Virginia kids heading for Ivies use UVA (or used to before it became so difficult to get into) peel off.

Enrolled stats last fall 2017 UVA:

75th percentile GPA: 4:44
median GPA:  4.29
Bottom 25th:  4.13

ACT:  33/32/29 combined (note the 35 for top 75th  percentile in math)

http://research.schev.edu//enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.asp.  The stats for the admitted class of 2022 are higher but, of course, the enrolled SCHEV stats are not available yet.

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[b]Really good point.[/b]  Lots of colleges inflate their stats by putting on their websites the stats of admitted rather than enrolled students.  In Chicago's case, being an Ivy back-up many top students apply there and go elsewhere, so the stats of enrolling students will be lower.  Same with UVA. But when comparing stats between schools you really should use the stats for students actually enrolled; they're all that count.

There's no question that on average Chicago students have higher test schools.  But there are many, many UVA students with equally high scores, and few UVA students without very impressive scores at least.  UVA is a very selective school.  [/quote]

Thanks! It's so rare that anyone says anything positive on this forum.  [/quote]

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