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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Having had kids go through the recruiting process, my experience with getting recruited is force ranked as follows

A) Individual child proactive reach out to schools they are interested in
B) Club advocating for kids to colleges of choice
C) Talent ID events (Hawks, individual schools ECNL/GA id’s)
D) Showcases/playoffs (more to see kids from the categories above, VERY rarely do coaches wander past a game and say I want to have that kid I have no file on)
E) Any recruiting service. My experience is these are a waste of time.

Just my experience YMMV

Additionally, the number of D1 recruits at either GA or ECNL is vastly skewed to the 80/20 rule. Top clubs in either platform will put disproportionate amount of kids in programs while bottom half teams get few looks. hawks will get 10+ and FC Wisconsin will get 1 or 2 if any at all. So parents who brag about being on either platform that are not one of the top ~50 clubs are just coat tail riding……..[/quote]

The Hawks have an excellent track record, no doubt, but I wonder if they might just be entering the toughest climate to succeed. The Wolves (MLSN) -- who they share facilities with -- is starting a girls program. With more GA clubs in MI, they may lose some of clubs that normally feed them top talent. The Nationals -- now in ECNL and in the same market -- are off to a more than solid start and may currently have a better reputation in terms of organization and coaching, which for the Hawks recently has been a bit of a carousel.[/quote]

Nationals may have had the most rapid ascension as a program in the last five years.  Not sure the reason but I remember Nationals teams being good, but they are excellent now.

Hawks are also excellent, something in the water in Detroit.

No clue if Nationals will overtake Hawks, but two clubs of that level within 30 mins of each other is something I wish DC had.[/quote]

For a long time, the Hawks didn't have any ECNL competition in metro Detroit and could easily form super teams and offer 2 teams at the ECNL level (which provided another way to horde talent). They continue to use that reputation to attract top level players and have excellent teams, but the changes in youth soccer and competition by the Nationals, among others, is putting pressure on whether they can keep their second team, which often struggles. And some say the coaching there has become a complete dumpster fire and they only continue win despite it -- thanks to the talent -- and as a result skating now on really thin ice.[/quote]

Looking at their website it seems all the ECNL teams are coached by Doug L and Michelle K, who seem to have been there a long time.  Have Nationals had new coaches?  It wouldn't be the ECNL access only as that is new and they were amazing in the GA.. like I said in my last post they might be the biggest "glow up" (as my daughter used to say) I have seen in a long time.  New director? coaches? All I know is their u19 team kicked our ass this year.[/quote]

2 people for all age groups for one of the nations top clubs? All I'll say that's not how the season started.[/quote]

Do tell  :P [/quote]

All I'll I say is people love this club and others not so much and that's not surprising given their success (which continues). It's also a bit of a unicorn as a nonprofit and girls-only, so in some ways you want to root for them, even when they are so dominate. What's clear though is they had coaching issues this year and in previous years, giving rivals an opening.[/quote]

I'm bored, snooping, but it looks like the Hawks' young "star" coach left this Spring to become a director of the new Nationals ECRL group in Lansing, Michigan (not even the main Ecnl & ecrl location).  It appears she was actually a Michigan Hawks alum so that's quite an interesting one.[/quote]

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