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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I honestly think Blake’s biggest issue was TikTok. She doesn’t understand it and either her Pr team doesn’t either or she chose not to listen to them. I think it’s the latter and likely RR thinks he knows best. The days of inauthentic celebs and worshipping them is over and those two don’t seem to get it. [/quote]

Isn't that Baldoni's whole schtick? [/quote]

What is his schtick? I know little about JB. But if he is against celeb worshipping, then no wonder she hated him  [/quote]

He is everything you claim to detest.[/quote]

+100

It's also very weird to read these long posts declaring a hatred of celebrity worship and parasocial relationships in this specific thread.

I have a suspicion that at least some of the Baldoni stans arrived at this case after Depp/Heard ended. I know, I know, I will be told that ACTUALLY the Baldoni supporters were on Amber Heard's side the whole time! Whatever. I feel pretty confident that there's some overlap in the people who rabidly posted about how much they hated Amber Heard (called her a liar, claimed Depp was the true victim, etc.) all throughout that trial, and the people who have been caping for Baldoni (and hating Lively, calling her a liar, claiming Baldoni was a the true victim, etc.) this time around.

So who's next? What woman will the fixate on as the root of all evil, and what problematic man will they decide is actually a hero?[/quote]

Funny, was just thinking about this last night. All the useful idiots doing the patriarchy's work for them. Do you think they're mostly motivated by jealousy and parasocial attachments to men? It's disturbing.

Anyway, not a big Blake fan but definitely preferred her to the gross men involved in this case, and like that she showed up at the Met gala alone looking confident.[/quote]

Please, Blake’s fabrications have  done nothing but harm women that are actually the victims of workplace harassment.  She’ll never stop fighting in for them unless her claims get dismissed or there is a Met Gala to attend.[/quote]

I think the opposite. She has brought workplace harassment to the forefront again. How many times have we heard that this industry is different? It's not really though. It's just that everyone has accepted it for too long. Male abusers might thing twice going forward which makes her efforts a win at great personal cost.[/quote]

Wut. When is ANYONE ever said Hollywood is not a sexist misogynistic industry?

What are you even talking about?[/quote]

DP but the PP is obviously referring to the common attitude prior to this lawsuit that because Hollywood is a creative industry, the regular rules for workplace safety and treatment don't apply. The lawsuit really challenged that attitude by treating the set of the movie as any other workplace, where employees have protections in place.

Even the court decision dismissing Lively's SH claims could potentially be used on behalf of another actor suing over mistreatment. The court dismissed those claims in large part because he found that Lively did not qualify as an employee of the film. She was deemed an independent contractor, outside the scope of the laws she was suing under. And the decision goes into detail as to WHY she was deemed an independent contractor, relying on the control she exerted over the film, and her own description of that control in her pga letter.

Most actors have nowhere near that power on a set. Most are not producers at all, and if they get executive producer credits, they are vanity credits only. Most don't have influence over casting, which APs are hired or fired, the way the movie looks, editing, etc. Which means an actor suing their director or production company over mistreatment on set could reference Lively v. Baldoni as setting a standard for the difference between an employee and an independent contractor on a film set and say, "look, all of the factors that led to Blake Lively being deemed an independent contractor go the other way in my case, thus I was an employee of the film and entitled to the all the rights and protections of employees under the law."[/quote]

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