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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Muslima]
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You're missing the point. CH may be a pure issue of freedom of speech, but niqab-wearing is more complicated.  The niqab debate is NOT just about freedom of speech. It is VERY relevant to bring the reasons women wear the niqab into the conversation, and whether they are in fact wearing it freely, as well as issues of national mores. [/quote]
Niqab-wearing is not more complicated. It is a freedom of speech issue, if you can't see that, that is your prerogative but to restrict niqab because you don't know if people are forced to wear it or national mores is ridiculous and hypocritical when you label yourself as a free democracy.

[quote]Also, you don't get that we're talking about two sides of the same coin: You can't call for burka wearing and muzzling CH in the same breath.[/quote]
Iam not muzzling CH. The niqab ban has been in place since 2010. My point remains, you can not ask Muslims to accept CH in the name of freedom of speech and in that same breath tell them they can't dress the way they choose to because it  is inconsistent with the values of the republic.

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Sorry, you never said what you're now claiming you said (that the idiocy involves expecting change). Here is what you actually said: " At the same time, it is also idiotic to continue provoking a group of people who have a long list of their own internal and external political and social grievances that stretch back for many decades (here I mean the N. African Muslim population of France), and then expect that nothing will happen." Your quote is right above, and everybody can check for themselves. 
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That's exactly what I said. Nowhere was it said it was referring to CH, you made that assumption on your own and I corrected you and told you that was referring to the current  continuous printing of the cartoons thinking that would make a change, if you can't accept that, i can't help you.
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Please, just stop with the nonsense about how the cartoons were designed to "provoke people to violence". The cartoons were a form of expression, no more, no less. But your rephrasing about how they were intended to "provoke violence" once again shifts the blame from the violent people to their victims.[/quote]

Your words , not mine. Nowhere did I say that the cartoons were intended to provoke violence, maybe that is truly what you think? Interesting ~[/quote]

Wrong, wrong, wrong,

Sorry. Niqab wearing IS more complicated than pure feared on of speech and you're wrong to write off women who are forced to wear it.

Also, the record clearly shows that typos DIFvkink idiocy to ignoring threats of violence, rather than your attempted rewrite to link idiocy to exoecting so change. And the statement stands: you can't telk CH to self-censure even as you try to make burkas into a freedom of speech issue.[/quote]

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