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You seem to think that men cannot distinguish between someone who wants casual sex with them, and someone who does not.  Pretty sexist, PP.[/quote]

If men COULD distinguish the two, then rape would be non-existent, right???!! [/quote]

If men cared about the difference, rape would end.[/quote]

Well, no, it wouldn't, because some men rape deliberately. As a power thing or whatever, I don't know. But clearly anyone who commits a violent rape (knifepoint, gun, knocks the woman out, whatever) has to know that the woman does not want sex, and he's doing it anyway. Here, the victim alleged that one man told another (or others) to hold her legs apart and keep her still. That's a pretty clear indicator that they knew quite well that she was not willing. In fact that was probably the point. So, under your premise, perhaps date rape would end, but violent or deliberate rape would not.[/quote]

Good clarification, thanks. I am so fed up with the "blame hookup culture" poster (Christina Hoff Sommers, is that you?) that I am not being as precise as I should.

But also, "acquaintance rape," not "date rape."[/quote]

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