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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]If you fly, it makes sense to stay on park property so you can use the buses.

We've stayed at the Disney motel often for $175 or so (ie All Stars) and it's fine. It's definitely dated, but it's still very clean. We like the buses and the early park entrance.

We go middle of the week in the off season and it's wall to wall people. The line times are just out of control. Even when I run the app perfectly, line up everything perfectly, wake up at 7am and book it all, it's still long lines for everyone else. Everyone else has less stress though, but for me as the planner it's a lot.

We have a toddler who can't ride and so we do rider switch, which is also a circle of hell. DH and the older kids wait in line for an hour and then when they get off, I get to go through the lightning lane, which still has a 15-20 min wait. It really drags out the day and makes it unenjoyable. Universal has it perfect. We all wait together, then the baby and I step out at the front of the line into a special room. DH and the older kids get off and then I immediately board the ride. No extra waiting.

DH and I make about 400k and could afford to go yearly, but it's a miserable trip. Disney clearly doesn't care about families like ours though. [/quote]

Why aren’t you using the premier pass if you make $400K? It solves everything you don’t like. Zero need to use the app or anything like that and you just walk on rides and cut every line.

We know a number of families that were “VIP tours only” previously and all but one now exclusively use Premier Pass. [/quote]

Because it was $300 a person and we are a family of 5. $300x5 x 4 days= $6,000 extra due to Disney's insane lines. We're very happy with our salaries but we don't have an extra 6k to blow on an already very expensive theme park trip. The people who are spending that must come from cheaper areas of the country or make a lot more than us. [/quote]

Our HHI is nearly double yours and we still didn’t get a premier pass this summer. It’s not about how much you make. It’s about value for money. I’m happy to pay $35 for a LLMP or $20 for a LLSP. But $400 PER PERSON, PER DAY on top of what we’re already paying? Yeah. Sorry kiddies. You can get your booty out of bed at 6am and rope drop. We did every single big ticket ride at MK without a premier pass.

Now Epic, that’s a different story. You really do need an express pass for that park. [/quote]

It’s not $400 pp per day at each park. It’s around $400ish for MK, $300ish for HS, and Epcot and AK are significanly less and no necessary. Just get PP for the first 2 parks and you’re good. Use the lightning lane pass for the other two. And you can make it work by not staying more days than needed. You will get everything done in 1 day so no need to go back. 4 park days, done. No need for a week long stay.[/quote]

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