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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]If you fly, it makes sense to stay on park property so you can use the buses.

We've stayed at the Disney motel often for $175 or so (ie All Stars) and it's fine. It's definitely dated, but it's still very clean. We like the buses and the early park entrance.

We go middle of the week in the off season and it's wall to wall people. The line times are just out of control. Even when I run the app perfectly, line up everything perfectly, wake up at 7am and book it all, it's still long lines for everyone else. Everyone else has less stress though, but for me as the planner it's a lot.

We have a toddler who can't ride and so we do rider switch, which is also a circle of hell. DH and the older kids wait in line for an hour and then when they get off, I get to go through the lightning lane, which still has a 15-20 min wait. It really drags out the day and makes it unenjoyable. Universal has it perfect. We all wait together, then the baby and I step out at the front of the line into a special room. DH and the older kids get off and then I immediately board the ride. No extra waiting.

DH and I make about 400k and could afford to go yearly, but it's a miserable trip. Disney clearly doesn't care about families like ours though. [/quote]

Why aren’t you using the premier pass if you make $400K? It solves everything you don’t like. Zero need to use the app or anything like that and you just walk on rides and cut every line.

We know a number of families that were “VIP tours only” previously and all but one now exclusively use Premier Pass. [/quote]

DP. I’m guessing you don’t make $400k if you think those that do have that kind of money to throw around. [/quote]

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