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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]100% of Democratic Senators just voted for it.  Look it up.  I’m sure they did it to thwart Trump, stand against hate, provoke bible beaters, etc, rather than out of any real desire to see Big Bertha breaking noses on the volleyball court, but they did it.  Not a few wackos—every Democrat in the US Senate [/quote]

Once again I'll explain this to the simpletons- Senators and POTUS candidates are two different things. There are zero good Senators in Congress. They all suck. This is old news. Our 2028 POTUS nominee won't be a Senator. I could care less about Senators voting against or for partisan garbage bills. I care about having a legitimate POTUS take office in January 2029. [/quote]

I’m for that!  But that person will have to either start a new party or helm an existing party.  And if he or she is helming an old party, the voters will ask which of that party’s policies will change vs stay the same.  Kamala got hurt by refusing to say.  Can a silver-tongued-devil do better.  Of course.  But I still wonder what the winning formula is on this issue—affirm current  Dem platform, change it, or evade the question.  And by the way, it’s not just Congress.  The executive branch under Biden was very committed to trans education, underage hormone treatment, underage surgery, etc for most of the term.

I’m guessing you’ll recommend evasion, since your response to the trans question is “a few wacko Congresspeople aren’t the President,” then “All Dem Senators aren’t the President.l. Uh, yes, I know.  I’m just wondering what we’re going to say about the trans issues we have so far supported as a party to the voters who don’t support those issues.  And to the LGBTQIA+ voters who will go to war over this if we try to tack to the center.  [/quote]

Biden is no longer a relevant influence on the party. No 2028 Dem or GOP POTUS candidate is going make "Trans" anything part of their political platforms. Get some fresh air and get over your obsession with this "trans" issue.[/quote]

Dems just lost, in part due to this issue.  Based on that fact, it’s silly to pooh pooh it, even if you consider the topic beneath you.

GOP surrogates will pound the Democrats to answer this question.  And if Dems haven’t abandoned the current Dem Party platform, there will be plenty of videos of Big Berthas beating America’s daughters in sports, at times injuring them, and always freaking them out in the locker room.  And stories of transwomen getting transferred to women’s prisons and raping their “fellow” women.  And stories of drag queen story hours and transing activists in elementary schools.

Fancy centrist Dems don’t like admitting everything that goes on inside our big tent.   But it does go on, and we have a choice how we address it.  Your choice is clear—din’t change it, just pretend it doesn’t exist. We’ll see how effective that strategy turns out to be[/quote]

Oh you two-bit pathetic 80 IQ fool. Dems lost in 2024 because they had an unfit and unpopular incumbent candidate back out of the race a month prior to the party convention. No incumbent party in American history could win in the 2024 election scenario the Dems had to deal with. If you think some silly identity issue pushed by the GOP was more of a factor in the 2024 election than the incumbent backing out of the race 3 months prior to election day, you have truly lived up to the two-bit pathetic 80 IQ fool title you have now been given.[/quote]

You’re the low IQ fool.  If Dems want to win elections, we need to look at all levers, including dropping unpopular policies.  Your argument is that we don’t need to change anything because in an alternate universe we would have beaten Trump.  You say that Biden and Harris, the two biggest vote getters BY FAR in Democratic Party history, were so much worse than our usual candidates that everything will just resolve itself with no need for introspection or change on our part.  That’s a recipe for losing.  Our job is not to explain away the 2024 loss to make ourselves feel better.  Our job is to try to win in the future.

The party of trans folk, illegal immigration, and restoring DEI is going to have an uphill battle with the voters if we don’t make any changes to our policies.  Any sign of that changing?  No. Your advice is to keep the unpopular policies but have the candidate be evasive about our policies.

The process that produced the last 10 years of Democratic candidates is also going to have to change if we want better results.  Any sign of change?  Have the superdelegates and megadonors agreed to step back and hand things over to the voters?  No.

We’re also not going to have Trump to run against next time.  You keep asserting that any Republican could have beaten us this time.  That might make us feel better about our past loss, but it’s not great news for next time.  Will our party turn out in huge numbers to stop someone who ISN’T Trump?  If anti-Trump hate wasn’t enough for us to beat Trump himself, it probably won’t be enough for us to beat a better Republican candidate.

Anything can happen, but refusing to consider the preferences of the voters is a way of handicapping ourselves.  We’re not going to win with our old playbook and one hand tied behind our backs.  We need to adjust.  It’s low IQ to refuse to adjust.[/quote]

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