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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Why should anyone take Maher’s views and opinions seriously when he has Jewish ancestry and he’s petrified of even having a Palestinian guest on his show to address the lies he spews regarding the conflict?

Are we supposed to think this guy is impartial? He’s clearly not, so why do we care what he has to say again?[/quote]

I guess we shouldn't take Noam Chomsky's and Bernie Sanders's views seriously either then. [/quote]

I don’t know what the PP is, but I’m the Palestinian person who’s been commenting on this thread and I completely disagree regarding Jewish ancestry being why Bill Maher is the way that he is and I would not use that for anyone because frankly, the people who I admire the most speaking out about this are Jewish and the most repugnant, are not.

I don’t like anyone using someone’s religion as a cudgel for their view. This is about Zionism and if you’re one of these people trying to conflate that with Judaism, it’s you who hurts Jewish people the most, not me.

I was in tears watching all of those Jewish people at the stock exchange protesting. How anyone could think I hate people for being Jewish because they themselves are such rabid Zionists trying to defend the slaughter of my people for 76 years using their own hate, racism and bigotry the way Maher has, is beyond me. [/quote]

Yes, this. But my son is a news editor on his school paper and just told me there is a student opinion piece that will run in the next issue that is trying to make the case that using the term "Zionist" is antisemitic which appears to me another angle for stirring up a hornets nest of antisemitism accusations.    [/quote]

Oh, I know about the attempt to conflate the terms. If Zionist Jews in particular, think that's going to make Jewish people safer, then they're in denial about what is happening. Long before last year, I've been telling Zionist Jews (because I don't even give a damn about the Non-Jewish ones who are pathetic and agenda-driven on an entirely other level), that it won't be a single Palestinian or Muslim or Arab who hurts Israel, it will be them. When it's becoming more and more associated with censorship and silencing all criticism of Israel to the point we have actual laws violating the first amendment of Americans, then how can one be so obtuse as to blame anyone but themselves if their religion is then associated with censorship due to due a supremacist ideology?[/quote]

What is Zionism to you specifically? Because Jews generally define it only as believing Israel has a right to exist. It doesn't mean agreeing with all or even any part of Netanyahu's current actions. [/quote]

The "right to exist" garbage is based on denying the right to exist for Palestinians. To engage in revisionist history to nullify the very existence of people and to emulate everything Nazis did to Jews (don't bother denying this knowing full-well I can pull up quotes from countless Knesset members and former US STATE DEPT officials who sound no different from the Nazis, to go along with the evils committed by Zionists under the eye of soldiers, on the WB alone).

Zionism is not some simplistic, innocuous right for Jews to exist. If you actually and truly cared about what it meant from its inception, you would acknowledge how it arrived TO Palestine. Have you ever actually read the quotes of the founders of Zionism? You want to tell yourself Zionists weren't the ones to introduce terrorism to Palestine.

When have you ever seen an Israeli told "well, you voted for it" regarding Oct 7, when they're the ones who actually vote for current day terrorists and have, since the beginning? You tell Palestinians they voted for Hamas when most of them COULDN'T have. You can't accept how they even got elected.

Zionism is done because it is conflated with supremacy. Zionism is telling me I can't wear my grandfather's scarf because it's "antisemitic." Imagine the audacity of telling me I can't wear a scarf older than that ETHNOstate.

There is nothing remotely normal about an ideology that thinks Bill Ackman has more right on that land than the generations of my family.

You know how most see Zionism now?:

Said in a LONG ISLAND ACCENT:

[img]https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRTCc0whH4JnfsF_zXEdokzNSue1Vr_fHttNw&s[/img]

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