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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Why should anyone take Maher’s views and opinions seriously when he has Jewish ancestry and he’s petrified of even having a Palestinian guest on his show to address the lies he spews regarding the conflict?

Are we supposed to think this guy is impartial? He’s clearly not, so why do we care what he has to say again?[/quote]

I guess we shouldn't take Noam Chomsky's and Bernie Sanders's views seriously either then. [/quote]

I don’t know what the PP is, but I’m the Palestinian person who’s been commenting on this thread and I completely disagree regarding Jewish ancestry being why Bill Maher is the way that he is and I would not use that for anyone because frankly, the people who I admire the most speaking out about this are Jewish and the most repugnant, are not.

I don’t like anyone using someone’s religion as a cudgel for their view. This is about Zionism and if you’re one of these people trying to conflate that with Judaism, it’s you who hurts Jewish people the most, not me.

I was in tears watching all of those Jewish people at the stock exchange protesting. How anyone could think I hate people for being Jewish because they themselves are such rabid Zionists trying to defend the slaughter of my people for 76 years using their own hate, racism and bigotry the way Maher has, is beyond me. [/quote]

Yes, this. But my son is a news editor on his school paper and just told me there is a student opinion piece that will run in the next issue that is trying to make the case that using the term "Zionist" is antisemitic which appears to me another angle for stirring up a hornets nest of antisemitism accusations.    [/quote]

Oh, I know about the attempt to conflate the terms. If Zionist Jews in particular, think that's going to make Jewish people safer, then they're in denial about what is happening. Long before last year, I've been telling Zionist Jews (because I don't even give a damn about the Non-Jewish ones who are pathetic and agenda-driven on an entirely other level), that it won't be a single Palestinian or Muslim or Arab who hurts Israel, it will be them. When it's becoming more and more associated with censorship and silencing all criticism of Israel to the point we have actual laws violating the first amendment of Americans, then how can one be so obtuse as to blame anyone but themselves if their religion is then associated with censorship due to due a supremacist ideology?[/quote]

What is Zionism to you specifically? Because Jews generally define it only as believing Israel has a right to exist. It doesn't mean agreeing with all or even any part of Netanyahu's current actions. [/quote]

For years, overusing the words "right to exist" to elicit an emotional response never fazed me, and I would have agreed with what you BELIEVE is Zionism's true aim (spoiler alert: it's not about a right to exist, but about a pathological mission to subjugate others to its will - literally no different than radical Islamism).

Over the past year, my views have changed and I now no longer think that Israel has a RIGHT to exist. No nation has an unconditional RIGHT to exist, including the U.S. and the sooner people start actually reflecting on history, the better.[/quote]

Many countries exist due to war, contest and worse. People do (rightfully!) question that, but nobody ever says these countries need to be wiped off the map. That's why "right to exist" even needs to be said at all. You are holding Israel to a different standard than the entire world. [/quote]

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