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Because you are a racist who hates immigrants you think it's "hateful and racist" for me to refer to you using a related, but distinct term to describe your family based on the fact that you move to a different state for part of the year. Kind of like the people who are "expats," and not "immigrants".[/quote] Not the PP you are responding to, but expats and immigrants are two different things. [/quote] Feel free to explain the difference[/quote] An expat is someone who is somewhere temporarily, and still has employment ties to their home country. Someone who comes to the US from Mexico on a temporary assignment from their Mexican employer, and intends to return to Mexico at some point, is an expat. Someone who comes to the US with the intention of staying permanently, is an immigrant. I have a family member who lived in Asia because she was married a journalist for an American newspaper. She was an expat. Then she divorced him, and married someone who was an expat with a different company. He then moved back to his home country which wasn't the US, and she moved with him, and got citizenship there. In the second country she was an immigrant. [/quote] Do you not realize many, many immigrants are also here temporarily?[/quote] The PP is an absolute moron. I'd pay no attention to them.[/quote] Both your behavior is not worth paying attention to. Enough with the name calling.[/quote] Referring to somebody as a "migrant" is not "namecalling" unless you hate migrants and that's on you.[/quote] None of it is appropriate. Grow up already? Can you try to be mature? And calling someone a moron is not ok. Your obsession to a small underfunded program is really strange.[/quote] The funny thing is I actually think the issue of public education for kids in families that move a lot (or are "migratory") is a serious one, but some folks here are literally too racist and classist to tolerate the use of certain words. If you're angry that your advocacy of the MVA got detailed because somebody doesn't want to be described as migratory even though they literally migrate to a different state in the winter, you should be. It makes MVA advocacy look, at best, like a joke, and at worst, as a movement led by people who are massively out of touch.[/quote] More than likely they aren't with the MVA. And, its time for you to grow up. I don't get how you can be so hateful to kids.[/quote] Lady you are just as bad as the anti immigrant poster. You are truly not doing yourself any favors.[/quote] No one is anti-immigrant, but some of you are anti-families. Why do you care why some people prefer virtual? There's plenty of money.[/quote] I'd be fine with it if it didn't siphon off millions of dollars from general ed.[/quote] Why should we let school buildings siphon on education funding?[/quote] Because taxpayers care about their money being spent on public education that actually works, and virtual does not work well for most kids. Yes, even if their parents are involved.[/quote] Virtual works for a lot of kids. Often it takes parental involvement and people like you would rather complain than help your kids. If we are telling you our kids did well, and our kids are at the school who do you think you are to tell us otherwise? The current mcps in person is not working great. Look at the test scores and all the issues. [/quote] I am truly glad it works for yours. But you and I both an all virtual system would lead to massive flight of families and therefore reduced funding. It's obviously preposterous to suggest virtual is "cheaper" - that's like saying a tent is cheaper than a house. [/quote] One has nothing to do with the other. It’s a choice program, just like there are other choice programs. Don’t want it, don’t sign up. By your logic we should get rid of all specialized programs as because you cannot make it work no one should get them. Spend more time with your kids vs online. Or try working at your job. Amazing how you post all day and night on multiple platforms. What is your obsession? It’s very creepy. [/quote] Oh honey we are both posting here so don't get it twisted. I have zero problem with specialized programs. My child has special needs. But suggesting virtual is better because it is cheaper is ridiculous. No public school system would survive like that. Taxpayers would revolt.[/quote] Parents that aren't willing to parent could pay for private. Virtual works great for children with involved parents.[/quote] It's funny you say that because the silly admin at my kindergartener's school are insisting she should be in school and that she can't make up the school work at home. I mean it's the 21st century, figure it out, amirite?[/quote] My kid attended all of kindergarten on Zoom. It was a tremendous strain but everyone did their best. People in this thread are so inhuman to one another—really disappointing. I’m hoping most of you are Russian bots.[/quote] No, everyone didn't do their best. For example, Jack Smith and the BoE, who couldn't be bothered to open schools, clearly weren't doing their best.[/quote] Schools were open, they were just virtual. There was no good way to open them in person during a pandemic.[/quote] Plenty of other schools around the US and world reopened in fall of 2020. [/quote] Why did you not move and attend one of them, just like you are suggesting we move? Most schools don’t have 500-3400 students. Many schools also stayed virtual. If we could make it work, why couldn’t you?[/quote] Right- that was the "choice" we were given. Either accept MCPS's terrible offering or pay for private, move, or homeschool. And now that's your choice.[/quote] Covid virtual has nothing to do with the MVA. Sorry your situation that you created sucked so much that that your kids needed free child care but blaming mva families for that makes no sense. There are a good number of low income and families with special needs kids you are hurting who are now now getting their needs met because of your hateful behavior. Going to a private solves nothing as none are masking or taking precautions. Homeschooling only really works in the early years. And, moving is not an option for many of us - jobs, health reasons, finances, activities, etc. If it were that easy we’d be gone a long time ago. [/quote] Sorry your situation that you created sucks so much, but expecting other people to pay for your special requests makes no sense. If, as you claim, there are no private programs that cater to your requests, that only emphasizes how unreasonable those requests are.[/quote] Our kids are entitled to a free public education in the least restrictive environment. Why do you obsess over the MVA? The cost is minimal. Should we shut down all special programs, all AP classes, all special ed programs, magnet programs, and different specialties because they are technically special requests. MC? Edison? Lots of specialized programs in MCPS.[/quote] They have access to FAPE but you've refused it. Exclusion from school is a highly restrictive environment which you've forced onto your child. [/quote] Exactly and under FAPE, an equivalent virtual program like the MVA should be available. Virtual may not have work for you and given your posts, you were probably a good part of the reason why, but it worked for other families and if it did, why are you so against it? What is really behind all this?[/quote] Whether I'm against it or not doesn't really matter. It doesn't exist. Your children have access to FAPE through their neighborhood school, or the variety of special programs tailored for special needs. For children that truly can't go to school, there's IIS which, while less than ideal, meets FAPE. The program envisioned would be an improvement for that small group of students. But there are some highly vocal members of the former MVA community that are upset it would be limited to those students with a clearly identified need. You seem to be confused by the concept of FAPE. FAPE doesn't mean you get to pick the program or method of delivery. It doesn't even mean you get the best educational method or program for your child.[/quote] For those of us with health issues or kids with health issues, please enlighten me on what you think the schools will do to help midigate colds, flues and covid in our kids. There is no distancing, no regular cleaning, no proper air circulation and kids go sick regularly and the principals refuse to send sick kids and staff home. However, regardless of the reason, just like you can be at home on the computer all day, kids can learn virtually too and they were doing it successfully. [/quote] You had me for a second, but then I realized the spelling mistakes were intended as a hint that you're a troll. [/quote] Why are you so against it? You are trolling as it has no impact on your life or your kids. [/quote] [b]I'm not against a virtual option for those that *need* it. I'm against a taxpayer-funded virtual program for parents that merely *want* it, [/b]often based on on unmanaged anxiety related to the loss of control over their child. The program MCPS is considering appears to a reasonable attempt to serve those with a need. However, I think a state-wide program would be more cost-effective and likely provide a better experience for students (e.g., offer more synchronous classes). As a parent, you have the right to choose the educational setting for your child. But you don't have the right to demand that others pay for it.[/quote] A million times this. Blended learning for medically impacted students is a reasonable accommodation and a much-needed upgrade to IIS. It's a huge leap forward for kids who previously would have received IIS, and I don't think there's a person in the world who would begrudge them that. But it's still an accommodation, and therefore there needs to be some sort of gatekeeping to limit it to those kids who need it, rather than those who simply wish to avoid the lift lines at Vail. Because people will abuse any program that exists, there must be some criteria for entry. [/quote] First of all, the program is still under discussion. There’s no funding, no clear plan, and no staffing in place, nor is there a curriculum. Secondly, this isn't a good compromise; the MVA offered access to a full curriculum and live teaching, which was a much better option. Who are you to determine what's best for someone else's child? You wouldn’t want us making decisions for your children, so why should you dictate what’s best for ours?[/quote] Public schools don't attempt to provide the "best" education for the individual needs and desires of every child and parent in the system. They can't. While you're perfectly free to determine what is best for your own child, you can't demand that the system establish and pay for a program that satisfies your wishes.[/quote] Do you realize how many specialty programs MCPS does have? So, what is the difference and why should we have some but not others? Why should your kids needs get met, but not mine?[/quote] Yes, priorities need to be established. Perhaps there are other programs that should be reconsidered when deciding where and how to allocate resources. I tend to think the narrowly focused IIS, and perhaps the proposed expanded virtual program being discussed here, are the best way to accommodate needs while balancing resources, but that could be discussed. What other programs do you think should be reduced or eliminated to accomodate a broader virtual program?[/quote] [b]I think they should cut out all the spending on the non-profit programs inside the schools, including after care, fun programs, to start with. Also, cut MC programs outside of what is mandated. And, parents can pay for IB, AP, SAT and other voluntary tests according to income. I think they should cut out all the unnecessary spending on legal fees and go line by line to economize. [/b]The MVA cost was minimal. Tell me how this new proposed program or IIS give an adequate and equal education to students. Do you know anything about IIS or this new program? Very little is being said about this new program. They don't have a plan for what it will look like, they don't have funding, and they don't have staff. Its not going to happen. Many of the families who would want it, left for private virtual programs or to homeschool or moved away. No one except for a select few would even agree to this as its not adequate.[/quote] Why don't you bring that up at the BOE meeting and see what they say, I haven't heard these sort of details presented at a meeting. I'm not sure what your agenda is on this forum, are you hopeful you'll change minds on here and convince someone to present it to the BOE for you?[/quote] It’s been brought up. What is your obsession with this? It’s very strange. [/quote] Oh ok I don't catch every moment of every meeting lol. How did they respond? Not obsessed in the slightest, I'm just surprised there are still so many threads from MVA supporters on this forum advocating cuts to other programs to fund MVA- just doesn't seem that effective. But I'm sure you have your reasons. [/quote] As is often the case from the MVAers, that was a lie. They have not proposed those program cuts in testimony to the BoE. I'm not sure why the pp keeps lying, but it has gotten more brazen over time.[/quote] Good people don’t throw others under the bus when advocating for their kids and kids they care about. [/quote] So why did you claim that cuts to dual enrollment, tests for advanced courses, and before/aftercare programs to pay for MVA had been "brought up" with the BoE at their meetings? Ultimately decisions need to be made about what to prioritize. You seem to be implicitly acknowledging that such cuts would be highly controversial, which is why they weren't done to maintain MVA.[/quote] Actually some of those things are being discussed in the BOE and other groups. SO, it shows you aren't paying attention to what is going on and aren't reading what the BOE puts out. And, some before/aftercare programs are paid for by parents or vouchers and [b]others are free to families paid for by MCPS. [/b] PAY attention before you hurt people with your ignornace.[/quote] Which programs? If you are referring to Excel Beyond the Bell programs, they are funded through Title I money, which is not fungible. If you mean something like RecXtra, it's funded by Montgomery County not MCPS. [/quote] No, not those programs. There are other programs. They've been mentioned on X, where MCPS is providing free space, paying for paraprofessionals, and much more. Its a race based limited enrollment group so not welcoming to all. Many of these programs are hidden in the MCPS budget becuse of lack of transparency. MCPS gives lots of non-profits money for extra services that shouldn't come before educaiton and academics. [/quote] Okay, so name the programs. You've already been caught spreading disinformation, so you can see why we might be suspicious. [/quote] Itis on x. You stalk people there. The director bragged about the paras and funding in his posts thanking mcps. [/quote] In other words, she doesn't actually know, but Janis complained about something.[/quote] Of course I know and if you followed the people you say you do, you'd know too. Educate yourself. Why do we have to do it for you when you are far smarter and claim to know it all. [/quote] You're the one making false claims. No desire to waste my time searching for something that doesn't exist. Best of luck tracking down and advocating for programs to cut to pay for MVA, let us know how you fare.[/quote]
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