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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I saw on the parent fb page some parents are sending their daughters cookies and / or flowers. Is this a thing?

I assume parents were not present for Bid Day.  I know of out of state moms showing up for Bid Day at Southern universities. Seems a bit much, in my view. [/quote]

Kind of like when kids get accepted and there is a pic on insta of a kids bedroom with 100+ balloons, $1K of college merch and snack food that matches the school colors.  Last year it seemed each post topped the prior one.

So, yeah, some parents are thrilled that their kids are now in the “top tier” of society and will send them presents that they will then hopefully post on social media so the moms can repost and brag.[/quote]

Geez parents are happy their kid got into any sorority, not top tier. I sent my kid some themed cookies after initiation.

I heard that a lot of girls dropped out of rush this year, which is a real shame. Sounds like way more than usual and they started with a smaller group rushing to begin with.   Looks like it will be a busy COB season.[/quote]

If your kid [b]got into the lowest tier that only got 3 girls[/b] as opposed to their usual full house would you have sent themed cookies?  Maybe you would have - but I am seeing the usual tier hierarchy play out.

What I am seeing on social media is just so eye opening…and depressing. I feel so bad for the kids with everything so in your face on social media. And from what I am seeing the parents are the worst.

I am also seeing tons of posts from kids who were just accepted into college listing all of the sororities in their girls school begging for letters of recommendation. It’s January... 😳
And their kid is not yet in college.[/quote]

You must be an alum from the pre-2006 era.
This “we only got 3 new members” thing literally doesn’t happen anymore.
NPC fixed the algorithm and now most if not all houses pledge quota unless they choose to under-invite at every round. [/quote]

Oh it happened and it’s not even what is considered the “bottom” chapter. So many more folks dropped this year, I think the algorithm broke. theta even had to offer snap bids.  My daughter is a pi chi and she said more than half of her dropped throughout the process.[/quote]

Again, associating “snap bids” with bottom tier and being shocked that groups that are not bottom would do this is simply telling me that you are an alum from 25 years ago.
When every group must limit their invitations based on their prior three years of performance, there will be groups that miss quota by one or three on occasion. And when it happens to a group that is not lower tier (“even theta”) will utilize snap bidding to pretty easily and quickly fill those spots.
Yes, girls drop when they have their hearts set on certain houses and their expectations for what houses will invite them don’t align with what happens for them.
But when that happens, invitation numbers given to the houses by NPC is reduced, and quota is then adjusted each round to reflect the number still enrolled divided by the number of houses. 
There are no NPC houses at UVA (or elsewhere) that are matching only three women on bid day. [/quote]

why are you so high and mighty, do you work for the algorithm maker? I just TOLD YOU THAT IT DID HAPPEN. Tri Sig at UVA had exactly three people show up to bid day.  You can ask anyone. The parents have posted in it on the FB pages, there are PICS of the three people on their insta. It happened, so stop being so stupid and condescending. Normally the bottom house is GPHI and they get maybe 8 on bid day. They did not participate in formal rush as they have too few members so now Tri Sig took their spot and the least popular. but THREE?  Absolutely crazy.   Everything went haywire this rush and WAY more people dropped out than usual.[/quote]

I think PP’s point is that unless they under-invited, the algorithm would not have matched them with only three women on bid day.
So the only other way to explain only three women showing up on bid day, women who were matched to that sorority would have had to opt to drop out rather accept their bid and show up to that house.
And it sounds like you are saying that yes, that is what happened.
This is a system problem. It’s not just an [insert name of current “bottom” chapter] problem. And I hope the whole system recognizes that. Because if they don’t work together to help erase/combat the stigma they’ve created and reinforced that does NOT support “all our chapters are strong and full of amazing college women” then this result will be repeated until chapter “on the bottom” will continue to decline and fall off due to lack of membership, until suddenly there are only three groups left and that third group starts to wonder how they came to be known as “bottom tier!”

My unsolicited advice for any members of the very “top chapters” who are reading this is to use your position for good. Reach out and offer to support these groups for the good of your whole system. Hold partner philanthropy events with them, host small social events with your group and theirs plus two fraternities. Use your strong reputation to assist in combatting this issue and begin to build a culture across your Greek system that refuses to engage in tearing down other groups who only want what you want——a support system where they can find encouragement and friendship with other women.[/quote]

No horse in this rush race but I read the thread with interest and the above post. I have heard of various experiences across schools. Is it that 25-50 percent of rushees land at 8 houses or so and the rest (hundreds) are herded toward 1 or 2 less popular houses knowing statistically many bail and hoping enough stick? That seems like a ruse and feeds a stigma problem which shouldnt exist in the first place. The girls wouldn’t be at the school if they weren’t compelling and worthy of knowing. However it is the perception of supply and demand.

So above poster has a point. The different houses should support each other to try to correct the problem.

How else can it be solved and shake it up so it has a chance of surviving? [b]Out of box thinking, what if girls can opt to be assigned randomly if they want? 20 get assigned to each house via lottery as an additional layer to the traditional process, or whatever number the least popular needs?  Each house gets that same number of lottery draws ie 30 traditional process, 20 draws. [/b]

Any other ideas out there? So many are left disenchanted and there must be a better way these days. [/quote]

Great idea to do a lottery! My DD went through rush recently at a private school where Greek life is very big.  It was very eye-opening and disturbing.  There are a few top sororities that all of the girls want to join.  And then there are two sororities with beautiful houses and alumnae support, but the girls do not want to join those houses.  They would prefer to drop out of rush than be associated with those sororities.  We used a rush consultant, and I asked her why the girls did not want to join those two houses.  The consultant (age 30) said that the girls in those two houses are "super sweet," but that the fraternities do not want to do mixers with them because the fraternities only want to do mixers with sororities where the girls are "super hot."  I was kind of left speechless by this comment.  I was in a sorority myself back in the day, and we were not this mean about it.  Social media has really done harm to Greek life, IMHO.  Let's hope that social media dies out as a fad, as it has harmed/ruined so many aspects of society at this point.[/quote]

Oh please. Get over yourself. It’s ALWAYS been this way. It’s just more public in the age of social media. But there have been popular and unpopular sororities on every campus, since the Greek system began. [/quote]

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