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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Dear Lord are there people who actually believe that someone shopping at Target at 2 pm is not capable of being supremely productive for their company? How antiquated. [/quote]

It’s a SAHM saying that. Their job is not to think[/quote]

While it is unquestionably true that *some* employees who are shopping at Target at 2 pm are high performers who are supremely productive for their company, my strong suspicion is that *most* of the employees who are shopping at Target at 2 pm on a WFH day are slacking off.  IME extremely high performance employees get a lot of slack as a practical matter, whatever the formal policies, but it is simply true that there are a lot of people abusing work from home while claiming to be highly productive—and that category is ruining it for everybody.[/quote]

And you’re convinced that if these same people were physically in the office at 2 PM, they would be productively working?  Because I doubt anything would change besides their location. [/quote]

I’m convinced that many of them would be doing more.  My sense of human nature is that there are many people who can be productive if closely supervised, and will slack off if not.  “When the cat’s away, the mice will play” is a proverb for a reason.  You may not agree, and you may even be right, but do you really think that’s an *unreasonable* point of view?[/quote]

DP but I'm in my late 40s. I've been doing this a long time. There have been absolutely been times I've been in the office 5x a week and not productive. Chatting, running errands, or just going online. I always get my work done, am a high performer, and want to deliver good work. But we aren't robots. It is human nature to work to meet deadlines, slack during down times, etc.

Pre pandemic I worked at a global firm that encouraged hoteling and remote work. I WFH most of the time and went into the office usually 2x a week. I was much more productive at home most days.

Now I'm remote full time, going in maybe once every 6 weeks or attending big meetings/company retreats etc. I love it, it's conducive to my kind of work, and I'll never report to an office full time again. [/quote]

NP.  What you are doing, as an employee in your late 40s who is not coming in to the office, is you are not giving any training or mentoring, formal or informal, to the young workers who are just starting out.  You were helped throughout your career, especially in beginning, by working with or for more senior people, who would give you advice, show you how to do it, help you.  Now you are declining to do the same for the younger workers.

Whether you care about the stores who were supported by you before, whether you should care about them or not, you clearly don't care about your company, the younger workers, or anyone besides yourself.    [/quote]

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